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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Mike Flynn can't keep sticking his foot in. Already convicted once, disgraced, doesn't matter. Now he went full Rudy on a PA pol, who decided to share the goonism with the public.

    "GOP candidate claims Michael Flynn hoped to blackmail U.S. officials into pro-Trump "audits""

    https://www.salon.com/2021/10/31/candidate-michael-flynn-trying-to-run-extortion-scheme-on-us-officials-to-reinstall/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If Trump was in anyway competent that would be a worry. But he's not, he wouldn't be able to accept the idea of stepping down, he wouldn't be able to cope with someone else being shown as better than him in any way, he wouldn't be able to keep himself from insulting the person standing as VP with him. It would all be about him and him alone, nobody else.

    If there was some puppet master behind the scenes controlling Trump, then they are equally rubbish at their role. It's nothing more than just a few doors opened for him and then just let him loose to see what mess he makes. There isn't any plan for Trump... Although there likely is for what happens after him. Just no way to control him until he shuffles off the mortal coil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,932 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I think what happens after Trump is obviously a power struggle. A suite of contenders will vie for the mantle of Republican Overlord, but they'll attempt to do this largely by parroting the greatest hits of Donald Trump but have no real ability to riff and just speak directly to the people. If Trump has any great gift as a politician, it's that he has a natural talent to speak in a way that viscerally excites his base.

    So, when Trump goes, that goes. Where the party goes from there, I don't know, outside of the power struggle. Because no-one else within the Republicans can be as entertaining as Trump, I think they'll double down on the darker aspects of Trumpism to keep the base excited. The language they use will be plainer and more direct and even less apologetic for any atrocities carried out in the name of the movement, to the point where there's no longer any apology at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    More trumpian ****ery from his proxies.

    Apparently it isn't too soon to joke about more violence after instigating a riot.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,374 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I almost think Qanon is just run by public transport companies to make idiots travel to events that don't exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,307 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That would be the JFK Jr who is dead and a democrat before he died? that JFK Jr?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,374 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yup.

    Faked his death and will run with Trump. In fairness, that would be a hell of an announcement to be able to say you were there for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,914 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    hang on so JFK jr who died in a plane crash with his wife and sister in law around the year 2000 ? That’s some good koolaid in the Qanon world. Sure why not Gandhi or shergar for the **** and giggles while they are knee deep in it ?

    actually I do remember seeing a video of some trump supporter being convinced that JFL jr was still alive but this is a new angle on that story because him being alive was daft enough as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    It’s not even the stupidest thing those morons have swallowed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yathink they mean RFK Jr, the anti-vax loon? Much amused by them going and waiting to see JFK Jr.. Perhaps the Rapture is upon them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,527 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    F**k me the movie Contagion predicted these guys perfectly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    How many times do they have to be on the wrong end of being told something is going to happen before it sinks in that they are idiots.

    I’m beginning to suspect Q is actually just a troll having a laugh at morons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    It's all about the grift

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Nah, I'm sure he's in it for all the intellectual conversations he'll be having with their WH correspondent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,085 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The film wouldn't have been taken seriously if it had their level of stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,932 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You're only beginning to suspect that? The only real possibilities are that Q is a troll or a hoaxer.

    The thing about Q and the central beliefs of that whole movement - and calling it a movement is too dignified a term - is that it's not even new. They used to accuse Jews of murdering children, just as Q supporters think Hillary Clinton did the same thing. It's old prejudices being rebadged or repackaged, bundled as a MMO alternate reality game and there's merch on sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,464 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Wow. Was this serious?

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    Am I missing something here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,932 ✭✭✭✭briany


    To your first sentence - yes, apparently. If there weren't already enough Americans who fervently believe that a guy whose name begins with a J will suddenly and miraculously return.

    From Rolling Stone https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/qanon-kennedy-jfk-jr-dealey-plaza-dallas-1251929/ -

    That John F. Kennedy, Jr., is set to return is a belief set forth by proponents of the QAnon conspiracy theory, which postulates that Donald Trump is lying in wait to destroy a secret cabal of blood-drinking, child-sex-trafficking members of the liberal elite. Dozens of QAnon supporters started gathering in AT&T Discovery Plaza in downtown Dallas last night to commemorate the glorious return of JFK Jr. — a man who, again, it must be emphasized, has failed to convert oxygen into carbon dioxide for over two decades.

    (my bold for emphasis)

    One interesting thing about QAnon, and something that had previously been a misconception of mine, is that it's not just 'Q' who drops nuggets of information (to use that word very loosely), but there is a whole scene of so called QAnon influencers who pick through a variety of media to look for what they allege are clues, with a Da Vinci Code level of mental gymnatics. So, there are a lot of competing 'ideas' within the landscape of QAnon and not every follower necessarily believes every one of them. Not that it makes them rational people if they're still accepting of the central idea that Donald J. Trump, of all people in the world, is the man who'd rid Washington of corruption and evil, and Hillary is a devil/lizard/child-murderer etc, but just to point out that it's a hot mess. The idea of JFK Jr. could be a fringe idea within QAnon, but it's so freshly wacky that media outlets can run with for clicks and views.

    I think we're really starting to see the bitter fruit of making the Internet and computers simple enough to the point where every Tom, Dick or Harry could figure out how to use it. Society was much better off when the QAnon believers were stuck reading the Weekly World News.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Depends on your definition of "Serious"

    Is JFK JR seriously still alive and been in hiding for over 22 years and now planning to appear this week to announce that he will run as Trumps VP pick in 2024 ?

    No , of course not.

    Is the fact that a significant percentage of GOP voters actually believe this thundering horsesh!t extremely serious for the future of American democracy?

    Yes - It is, quite frankly terrifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And there's footage of these nutjubs calling the local news reporters "fake news". Sweet jesus...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,932 ✭✭✭✭briany


    As worrying as the emergence of QAnon and the radicalisation of some middle-Americans is, obvious bolloxology like QAnon doesn't take root unless there are people receptive to it, so the bigger question is what is going on, culturally, to where you have Americans who can wash and dress themselves, and even hold down a job, believing that Hillary Clinton is a devil worshipping lizard from another dimension?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Definitely - There's a lifetimes worth of Doctoral theses to be had trying to explain what's going on and how this kind of stuff takes hold in a society.

    At a very simplistic level the connection between blind faith in religion and blind acceptance of guff from ideologues and grifters is significant.

    There are very few , if any Atheists that are followers of "Q".

    The particular variant of Religion in the US that is centred around the singular "Pastor" rather than a wider church hierarchy definitely plays a part.

    They have spent their lives being told what to say/do/think by one person "preaching" to them from the pulpit each week.

    Swap the pulpit for the Stump (or the chat room) and the same thing happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Sparko


    Has there been any reporting on the reaction of these believers after it didn't come to pass? Well I assume it didn't anyway 😂

    Or is it just the usual ignore and move on to the next date of significance like all the previous dates that have come and gone without Trump being magically inaugurated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,464 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I genuinely don't know where to go with this.

    I wonder what Trump makes of it. 😁



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    How many of these "Judgement days" have come and gone already though?

    They seem to be able to just ignore the failures and move to the next date without missing a beat.

    Reality isn't a factor here and that's the scary part - How do you pull someone back from this stuff if they can apparently suspend all rational thought so readily?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Looks like JFK Jr got cold feet in running with Trump!! 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Apparently they were also supposed to go back to the Julian calendar yesterday! Which, of course, allows them to conveniently play around with dates and bring other calendars into it. No doubt the already deluded disciples will lap up any "explanation" for the no show.



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