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"he merely argued that cultural factors - such as typical rap glorifying violence - was a motivating factor."

I'm in my 50's

I've been a fan of rap music all through the 80's to present day! To my shame I loved some Will Smith and to this day know all the words to vanilla ice ICE ICE BABY and snows lyrical masterpiece INFORMER.

On the flip side NWA, 2PAC, BIGGY etc Al were my go to CD's, these days (depending on my mood and the distance I have to drive) I like yo listen to NAS, LIL BABY & FREDDY GIBBS & THE ALCHEMIST.

Not once have I ever felt the need to resort to violence because of the music I listen to. Saying that I also have Garth Brookes and Motzart on my playlists.

We've been here countless times. Make shrill and false accusations such as Marcus Rashford being akin to a child molester and sex trafficker, refuse to acknowledge even making said claim despite everyone seeing it while being hypocritical enough to ask others for evidence which will immediately be ignored because common sense conservatives need their own special echo chamber and can't take being challenged.

Of course, but this sort of conservatism died a death some time ago. Now, it's about how bad BLM and the trans community are. The fact (and shame) that food banks outnumber McDonalds outlets is irrelevant to modern common sense conservatives. Engaging with a problem wastes time that can be spent posturing on social media and dining with party donors.

I think the thing is that a few decades ago, the foundations were rock solid. The trick is to incorporate a majority of people into the status quo such that they benefit from it and therefore will not vote for anything radical. Traditionally, this was done by championing individual achievement and creating opportunity. People would buy houses, have children and spend on luxuries.

Conservatism, as it exists now is a pretty stupid idea unless you're wealthy and most people aren't. People are no longer attached to the status quo. In addition, people who previously hid from society or were trampled by it are now empowered to stand in the open and ask difficult questions that conservatives cannot answer so we get the usual canards about elites, cancel culture, etc. They never bothered to build the next generation of conservative voters. We have an ageing society and the answer of conservatism to this was tax cuts for the elites and culture war.

The problem is that with so many people now ambivalent about much of the status quo, conservatives fear that these questions could lead to significant change. Billionaires hoard wealth and the old adage about people turning conservative as they age has been rendered void thanks to conservatives themselves. We've already seen the impetus for change have real effects with many politicians in the UK embracing the green agenda, voting through same sex marriage and so on. The arguments against these are flimsy at best or are shady at worst.

The US is different because keeping people convinced that someone wants their guns, God or family means they'll vote for whoever makes the most noise about protecting these gets in and proceeds to act in their own interests. Ultimately, conservatism is about power, control, influence and, above all, wealth. The US right talks much about God but Mammon is the object of their affections, not Jesus.

It's a tactic that ignores the long term and has shown great success but, as people become less wedded to the status quo and more positive about change it isn't working the way it used to. Traditional media is dying and society is the most diverse it's ever been. Things previously captured by conservatives are now up for debate such as colonialism and patriotism and they know they can't win so they double down and fail even harder.

They're right to be afraid but this is entirely of their own making. You can't build your house on sand and expect it to be resistant to storms.

It's getting to the point where, if he was chasing a black man through a cornfield wihile wearing white hods and carrying a flaming pitchfork in each hand, you'd say, ah sure no - it wasn't real racism....

So what? It's already been explained to you several times using the smallest of words why youtube numbers mean fùck all.

What racist lowlife is farage entertaining this evening?

So, there are at least 20,000 racists in the UK. Not that surprising, really.

He's got various books published and is allegedly an intellectual though anyone who behaves so obsequiously as him doesn't deserve that title IMO.

I see he's already begging for handouts as well.

Yup, just a normal every day buddy of farage

In July 2018, Fabricant was accused of being Islamophobic over a subsequently-deleted tweet he shared depicting London mayor Sadiq Khan, who is a Muslim, in a sex act with a pig."

Sounds like a lovely chap

"Conservative MP Michael Fabricant has apologised after tweeting that he might punch a female journalist in the throat.

Fabricant made the comments about leftwing journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown after she clashed with rightwing commentator Rod Liddle on a television news programme.

He tweeted: "I could never appear on a discussion prog with @y_alibhai I would either end up with a brain haemorrhage or by punching her in the throat."

Making light of mental health too

The Twitter user wrote: "He won’t get his way. Brexit is impossible to deliver, and will end the UK. The UK cannot be saved."

But Fabricant shot back: "Have you tried taking anti-depressants after seeing a good doctor?"

I'm starting to see a definite pattern here, Farage only has racist cùnts on as guests.

The big book of excuses will be needed tonight methinks

He's a racist, make all the excuses for him you want, Farage has a pattern of bringing racist guests onto his hour of hate show.