New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

It did. It entered the EU of its own free will and left of its own free will. Control over immigration was never lost.

I think we can add "successful" to the list of words eskimo definitely doesn't understand.

Why are you so wedded to this myth that you keep on propagandising?

It's like there's been a very recent but abject decay of intellectual though on the right. It's taken root over the past 5-10 years. I remember "PC gone mad" and getting offended being the start and, initially, I had sympathy for the centre-right which seemed to be a bit more sensible. I remember the Guardian making up words like "misogynoir" and beginning articles with "Let's be honest, men are terrible people".

Then, conservatism and the right just collapsed intellectually, aping that which they'd previously ridiculed and derided. There was no more argument or debate, just slogans to poison discussion like "loony metropolitan elite" and inane wailing about cancel culture. There's no intellect anymore, just this deep-seated insecurity based on the fact that conservatism is a pretty stupid idea unless you're inside the tent. The trick was to convince enough people that they were but without the intellectual self-examination that process has collapsed. Ageing white people like myself are supposed to have flipped to voting Tory by now but it makes no sense for me to vote for common sense conservatives who poison the countryside, inflame race relations, foment a gaping chasm of inequality and inflict a needless economic shock on the country they purport to love because it'll save a few vested interests some tax.

To be fair, there are elements of this on the left, particularly the toxic following around Jeremy Corbyn but it's so much more pronounced on the right. So much so that they need at least one special news channel with no dissent permitted along with their various newspapers and social media echo chambers.

With all this in mind, the hero worship isn't all that surprised. What Farage exists to do is to do the dirty work of his paymasters via coddling his base. That's all it is, base reassurance that their base prejudices are just and right and the mean old left is just angry and frustrated that you won't vote for them. There's no debate, no rigour, and barely any thought whatsoever. It's the same with Trump in the US. That's all they are and the second the bases don't get their constant need for vindication satisfied, they'll turn on these people like that. Until then, reality is second to perception and insecurities.

Are you saying GB "news" shouldn't be encouraging face mask wearing and vaccination? Is your hero farage against these things?

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but you believe all guests on GB News are racist."

You are wrong, but you cannot (well you probably can) deny that farage (not GB "news" as a whole) has had a LOT of racists on his program.

I wouldn't worry. The viewer is probably too busy to go to Glasgow anyway. I doubt it'll make a difference.

You just described someone as nasty because she expressed a hope that GB News might espouse some common sense. She didn't even add "for once". One of us is indeed projecting and it isn't me.

I was thinking of the guy known to sing Nazi songs in his youth. As I said, admirable dedication to...something...given that they weren't exactly Googleable at the time. A lot of effort there.