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Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Hopefully the antivirals will be soon available and that's another weapon in the armoury. Frontline workers really need the booster, even Paul Reid said so. Can't see why it's not yet recommended. They should simply get the vaccinated list starting from last Jan and offer everyone a six month booster in turn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Pondering the thoughts of going to a walk in centre at the weekend, all the talk of boosters is putting me off is it a thing we have to keep topped up into our bodies on a regular basis or what way will it fare out. Thoughts of all the stories of lads being in a bad way after the jab still dont fill me with confidence either.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    They cant go in too quickly with the boosters and risk them failing to do much. Aim to be getting them out just after the peak so everyone gets a clap on the back as things are reducing. Just like back in spring...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Well as an over 60, I now get my flu jab topped up each year. Really haven't come across anyone having a bad reaction to the vaccine. You'd be getting an mRNA if you go. I would encourage you to go. It's a bit like putting on a seat belt. I was in an accident years ago where a young lad crashed into my trailer load of hay, sliding in under the chassis. Diving onto the passenger seat saved his life and he could do it because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. He beat the odds, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't use a seatbelt nowadays. The odds are much better with the vaccine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    You'll probably see booster jabs mandated after we have a meaningful Xmas that leads to skyrocketing cases, anyone gone past the 6 months of last vaccination will have to get a another jab to keep their passes valid, vaccines some as much use as a Johnny with holes in it, going by the number of breakthrough cases locally...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,633 ✭✭✭emaherx


    A johnny is an interesting analogy considering their manufacturers don't claim they are 100% effective either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    I say feck it, just get it, but it’s your call Carroll’s…

    Your post has a feeling of a lad who will always be just about to get it, but will find some reason not to… 😉

    I could be wrong to say that though… 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Hard to bloody know really juat saw an article where Dr Holohan said vaccines wont be enough and weve 93% innoculated now no matter what we wont get 100% either i reckon. @Dinzee Conlee i was dead set against it up until today @Water John the only reason i would have taken it before today was if it was gauranteeing entry to Australia which seems to be getting further and further away by the day anyway. I suppose the whole thing where the pharmaceuticals have no liability is putting me off too.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Yeah, the more you read, the more you’d be confused I’d say…

    I don’t know, I got the vaccine, was happy to do so. I can’t really say any more to you except you have to decide yourself what to do…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Plus i do know of two cases through work where one lad ended up on a ventilator after the first shot, another fella was just f#cked after it. I thought pfizer was one shot now i realised its two shot so i dont even know where to starr on any of this.

    Better living everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Yeah, am sure you know of plenty people who got the vaccine who were fine as well…

    I don’t know, I’m no medical professional to tell you why or what to do. I can only say what I did…

    Like I said earlier - if you look for reasons not to get the jab, you’ll find them… You just have to decide which way to go, and roll with it…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Ask yourself do you see it benefiting you in anyway. If the answer is no. Why would you. It's not as if you being vaccinated gives the mythical benefits to the community that we were told from the start it would.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    If carroll ends up with long covid he'll always wonder could he be better if he didn't listen to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    It's up to him to decide if there'll be a benefit. If not why take it? It's questionable is long covid actually the issue it was made out to be or was that just more hysteria trying to nudge the population in what was deemed the right direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Government probably doesn't give a damn whether you do or not. As long as they print the guidelines they've done their job.

    Isn't it obvious, they bring in a lockdown and know they have neither the will nor the manpower to enforce it

    Nurses and doctors in hospitals might rather you did get the vaccine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,950 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    See dr tony has come out this evening saying the vaccine isn’t performing as well as expected in halting the spread of Covid …….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    ...dot dot dot...

    It's like a bad daytime TV drama the plot is so predictable!

    And yet anyone who predicts it, (Yesemoite Sam and others) somehow get labelled as conspiracy-theorists 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Think that's obvious now, I'll still take it in the hope of it reducing the affects when i get it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Where are people hearing about all these big outbreaks ?Nothing around here as far as I am aware and I would be out and about a fair bit .The usual scare stories about so and so who got covid and almost died etc .

    As regards pubs our local ones dispensed with any pretense of even bothering with any of this months ago .Walk into any of them and its like 2019 ie no masks ,never even been asked for covid pass/blue card and stools back at the bar .Packed at the weekends by all accounts (I'm a midweek 11;15pm pub goer to be honest )and busy enough rest of the time but nowhere back to pre covid levels yet .The restrictions are not even a minor topic of conversation any more as its all moved onto CAP and how the Greens are gonna wreck the place .

    Soccer and football started back as normal and any protocols that were in place last year are totally gone .The only visible reminder of covid is people scrambling to find a mask as they enter a supermarket .Small local shops ,tractor and motor factors etc very few even bother to mask wear any more .Wife says most supermarket sanitiser stations are empty these days .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    I know lots of people, every age who have had the vaccines, family members, friends, neighbours. az, Pfizer, moderna, no one that I know of had any complications. I drank lots of water before and after, don't know if that helped.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    If you went back to the summer of last year before ever there was a vaccine, that was said here.

    They put blind faith in the vaccine which it never deserved and so kept up the hysteria, instead of cutting out the hysteria and just let the whole thing fade to the background by testing less.

    You would forget that sweden in no longer the only country to have no restrictions now and most countries are much more free than here. Compliance is lower but yet they don't have the big problems we do because they're not looking for problems to be hysterical about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    You don't know any of that, Compliance is unlikely to be lower than here, there's only a small percentage complying here, very little personal responsibiltiy too.

    If they got a 100% vaccine in the first 12 months it would've been only a fluke, i'd guarantee you Tony doesn't give a sh.... Like all civil servants he just wants to be seen as doing his job. It's not like in industry where his job depends on results

    From the start of vaccinations we were being warned we could nfect others so no surprise there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,950 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Far from a Covid denier or anti vaxer but hard to keep up and trust what’s happening atm ….mixed messages ,confusion ,questionable decisions ,the constant ridiculing of a very small% of the population that are not vaccinated and implying that they are the cause of the current spread ….now dr tony and nephet comming out with a story that there’s huge outbreaks in the u 12s after been told all along and backed up with facts that it’s not really an issue for them …hard to keep up

    then there’s the vaccine …blind faith put in it when now it’s obvious enough it’s not a huge help to prevent the spread …now they want people to load up on boosters ….for what …going to be a long winter and more lockdowns look certain

    the big problem here is our shambolic health care system and the lack of accountability for the massive money threw at it …..out of a country of over 5 million it’s near on its knees with circa 500 Covid patients ….patients on trolleys and elective surgeries been pulled



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    I was off on my holidays wrangler. Seen it first hand.

    No checks on health certs, people only wearing masks for shops, none of the nonsense of wearing a mask when not seated in a bar or restaurant, everything was pretty normal bar in the shops.

    Everything is a lot stricter here in comparison, anyone I've talked to who has been away has said the same thing. They come back and wonder is there really a virus out there at all when we do more everyday but yet we have to do even more...


    There will never be a vaccine that stops covid in its track 100% with zero transmission. It is simply not possible.

    What we had was politicians who were so desperate to believe in the hype around the vaccine that they were happy to base their plans on that and nothing more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It's just a matter of common sense now, you can go where you like and you know the risks. this virus isn't going to be contained.

    To be putting conspirracy theories to it is over the top. Our biggest enemy is the public service, they have no idea of the harm that lockdowns do.

    If they left people alone and let them learn what ever lesson there is from getting the virus or overloading the hospitals. it would eventually settle down.

    Even getting the virus now is only giving two mths immunity so if you're unfortunate you could have it three or four times a year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I've been warning people about our health system for years, it's coming home to roost big time now. they're a solid waste of money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,386 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Absoloute bulls**t you only have two months immunity after a active infection, its a narrative that's out their to ensure the vaccine money train keeps rolling for big pharma, any concrete sources that clarify the two month statement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    herself was saying they are definitely seeing a rise in breakthrough infections in healthcare staff as their immunity started to wean after the six months. She’s hoping to get her top up soon.


    she says it’s 100% obvious that those hospitalised with covid the vaccinated are much much less sick and less likely to be in icu. Many of those vaccinated and hospitalised have their vaccines longer and likely immunity has dropped.

    our friend had a bad reaction to her first dose, didn’t stop her getting the second with which she was absolutely fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Our 13yo is having covid test this morning.

    don’t think she has covid, sore throat bit of a headache, need test done to see doctor as she likely needs an antibiotic as has been needed in the past.

    test is import though as we need to know either way to protect others.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,637 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    OK From googling I can get information that it lasts from 3 to 61 mths. .



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