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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    The media arm of the Gov RTE is responsible for turning the nation into scared neurotic hypochondriacs. Turn on Sky news and the difference to RTE is night and day. . RTE ought to be ashamed of themselves for the pressure they are putting on people's mental states



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    What difference will that make to the requirement to mask up indoors and sit at your designated seat? The unvaxxed have to stay outside the door anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Ah_well.


    This is it. If they judge that covid certs are so vitally important then why must everybody with their cert inside still be restricted ? We are as vaccinated as we will ever be so how will restrictions ever be dropped ? The only argument you could make is if there was much lower virus circulating in the community but when will that be ? Also is this the future with winters now ? Respiratory season and covid equals lockdown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    What changes in February is that we are hopefully close to the other side of respiratory illness season and therefore will have fewer worries about hospitals being able to cope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    That's what we thought this year too but we remained heavily restricted throughout the summer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    You're probably better off being unvaccinated in Ireland at this point. You can go to all the outdoor events and sporting events you want to. Hotels are fully open to you also to go on a break etc. A lot of pubs and restaurants now have top notch "outdoor" setups with heating and weather coverings with no need to be stuck in your designated seat inside with the masked up vaccinated folks. And a lot of places don't bother checking the cert in the first place anyway. You'd wonder who is actually restricted in this scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Did I also hear Leo state officially that vaccine effectiveness is waning?

    Wasn't that a conspiracy theory? I'm sure I saw somebody threadbanned recently for just saying that very same thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    How nphet are getting away with it 3 main reasons

    1 Irish media

    2 No opposition in government

    3 Irish mentality of being sheep and trying to get kudos for been best in class



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,899 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Hope they give planning to the Mater for that new building out front . They applied under emergency planning for a separate building for just such a need .

    If it was developers or vulture funds looking for 1 bed apartments would not be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    And human nature to blame all ills on a scapegoat as we have seen over the last 2 years like:

    • the people who went to Cheltenham,
    • China,
    • Italian rugby fans,
    • School tours to Italy,
    • the airports,
    • The Brits,
    • the GAA,
    • hotel quarantine,
    • Joggers and their "plumes",
    • Keelings and their foreign fruit pickers,
    • take away pints,
    • AstraZenica,
    • house parties,
    • Boris Johnson and Donald Trump,
    • students,
    • people enjoying themselves at Christmas,
    • The Brits,
    • and now the "unvaccinated".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    Norwegian and SAS have removed all mask requirements, on all flights between countries in Scandinavia. For everyone. Vaccinated and unvaccinated.

    Meanwhile, in Ireland……..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,899 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I agree with you .

    The disease among vaccinated people / recovered is mainly mild and breakthrough serious infections is only half of the surge in hospitalisation .

    The same people can go to a wedding , and sing and dance and mingle all they like .

    If people choose to mingle in pubs they are protected from the worst. If vulnerable choose to mingle , they know the risks at this stage .

    I wonder if this is a " saving Christmas " mindset for MM et al ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,848 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    They are unable to announce deaths on a daily basis and only do so every week due to the hack….Anyone care to guess why the HSE are still effected by the Hack that happened in May?


    Is it an excuse to hide something? Or are they 5 months later still not able to get their computers up and running?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    I wonder in a years time when the penny finally drops amongst our population that Covid is here forever who'll they blame. I'm guessing it will be poor people/people in social housing etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Ah_well.


    There is no doubt the disaster of last Christmas will forever play on his mind . In a way it’s understandable but these pedantic restrictions around hospitality are deeply frustrating now we are all vaccinated . Are they even achieving what he thinks they are ? Pubs are still pretty packed from what I see and this is an airborne virus. It doesn’t just dissolve after a meters distance indoors. This one/two meter distance they bang on about is no longer a buffer of safely indoors from what I read nowadays ? He’s opening nightclubs now too of course . Why is he putting these awkward restrictions to the pub experience when it’s surely of minimal benefit to curb the spread of the virus . I’m not sure it’s any more beneficial to curbing the spread than if pubs were back to normal as regards mingling . As you say those that are healthy and also vaccinated are not going to have a bad outcome so should be allowed have an old normal pub experience. Forget this new normal .



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    1000% correct.that inquiry into nphet needs to happen immediately and not in 5 years time when the cmo will be living on his lavish pension



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I imagine they are doing it to reduce spread of covid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    People collecting bouncy castles from outside of the County.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Jogger's and cyclists exhausting plumes of Covid on the footpath

    Pat Kenny March 2020



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,899 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    There is of course the list that anti restrictions posters espouse , the despised ones , we'll call it The Others ...

    Healthcare workers who dare to leave the hospital environment to return to their families , go to the shops , or go out , anywhere in fact . And then go in to work and , the dirty things spreading it to all and sundry, without a care for PPE, or wasting PPE as one renowned COO of the HSE said !

    Gardaí who allow people to run riot in pubs , houseparties, and turn a blind eye/ don't turn a blind eye, or gardai who don't wear masks at checkpoints ...outside ..in the fresh air .

    Teachers who dared to ask if the children they were teaching or themselves may be at risk in crowded classrooms ...keep the doors and windows open !

    The government for locking us down when it should have been let rip, for opening up but ignoring the science that boardsies all agree on , for continuing to open up, however tentatively now, when they were expected to lockdown ;)

    The opposition for saying nothing ..

    The HSE . Not too much angst here I note considering Paul Reid and co are running the service .

    GPs who should know their place and stfu , especially Ray Walley .

    The media especially RTE , except Fergal Bowers , cos he never gets excited by the numbers .

    George Lee who always gets excited

    ISAG Sam McConkey , Tomás Ryan , Killeen et al . for talking about zero Covid and killing babies ( I wholeheartedly agree with this one I have to say )

    Profs Luke O Neill and Kingston Mills cos they opened their mouths on the telly and the radio, I mean , what do they know ?

    NIAC for not giving the vaccines approval fast enough , for giving information and advice about vaccines for specific groups ,and about side effects, for asking us to take vaccines at all, when some here say we never needed them and they don't work anyhow ?

    Anybody in the population who is worried about them or their vulnerable relatives catching it and dying because that is just a myth . Those who restricted their movements or isolated and git tested when told to do so . And those who forget to take their mask off in the car, wears a mask and wash their hands when advised to do so , and obeys the restrictions WITHOUT QUESTION, omg what a sin ! What a pack of sheep !

    The people who keep going to get tested because they ...are pushing the numbers up .

    And finally ....drum roll....Tony Holohan , Phillip Nolan and those heinous sidekicks in NPHET , for their almost religious zeal in their jobs and their belief that they are primarily interested in public health , when in reality its all about The Power and The Money .

    Yes these are the real evil faces of the Pandemic ,indeed.

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