Should we in Ireland be concerned about Jihad?

Do I need to remind you that most attackers are going into suicide missions, so the "ruin their good life" argument is moot when they're actually ending their life for the cause?

I see. They are involved in organized crime, things like racketeering and money laundering but they get a pass because they're foreigners and so very unlikely to become violent like every other criminals usually do when things get tough.

I may have a bridge to sell.

If fairly well known the Irish people (passport holders) have traveled to various other states to join various different groups in conflict zones from Syria to Libya and face little or no action ,

Just because they fundraise here doesn't make us any less susceptible to a terror attack , I'm pretty sure they fundraise in every country there has been attacks in .

We have very little control over who and whats coming here and for what

the IRA were killing protestants and the uvf were killing Catholics during the worst of the troubles each side would order taxis from the other communitee to muder the taxi driver. Bloody Sunday was a protest march for Catholic Civil rights the British army somehow decided that it was a separatist movement. religion was a large part of the troubles

How much time? Islamists have been attacking 'soft targets' in the West for nearly 30 years, so far nothing in Ireland. There is an outside chance of a lone wolf like our Somali friend the other day doing something crazy but our overall Muslim population is so low it's pretty unlikely.

It would be difficult (in any nation) to halt a well planned, complex and co-ordinated suicide attack. Most foiled or failed attacks have been due to active monitoring of suspects or intelligence sharing (Ireland included). So in that respect, no we don't have the ability to stop that method of attack without prior warning, same as most nations.

For the likes of a marauding terror attack with perpetrators moving from location to location. It's very possible to successfully respond in good time if an event occurs in one of Ireland's main cities. I won't elaborate on that for obvious reasons.

Having a "large Muslim population" does not correlate to Islamic terrorism. The same as having a large Irish population in a country does not equate to a correlation of Republican terrorism.

It's a complete fallacy with no context towards the francophone reality. Your suggestion that less Muslims equals less Islamic terrorism is incorrect.

Your assessment that Islamic terrorism in France is more to do with the Muslim population, rather than French military actions is also wrong.

Research French nationality, former French colonies and francophones and see how your comments don't add up.

111 Road deaths this year. I'd have more worry about that than a jihad attack.

Sweden took In loads of Muslim refugees and Poland said thanks but no thanks. I wonder which countries anti terrorism unit is the busiest! But as you say it's a complete fallacy Signore.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiKmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmJiYy5jb20vbmV3cy9tYWdhemluZS0zNzU3ODkxOdIBLmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmJiYy5jb20vbmV3cy9tYWdhemluZS0zNzU3ODkxOS5hbXA?hl=en-IE&gl=IE&ceid=IE%3Aen

Sweden is a peaceful democratic state that has long been a safe haven for those fleeing conflict. Yet many young people whose families took refuge there are now turning their back on the country. More than 300 people have gone to fight in Syria and Iraq, making Sweden per capita one of the biggest exporters of jihadists in Europe.

As long as Rosenstock and Callan don't pull the piss out of Mohammed we should be ok

Two successful and 2 failed Islamic terrorist attacks in Sweden since 2010, resulting in 5 deaths from 1 successful attack. Perpetrators were an Iraqi-Swede, a Swede, an Uzbeki failed assylum seeker and a suspected Al Qaeda cell.

Refugees, migration, returning foreign terrorist fighters are all widespread throughout Europe.

If you are attempting to make a point, or disprove mine, maybe actually try to do so.

Only we can't since funding Islamic terrorism is part of Islamic terrorism. We do have Islamic terrorism happening here in Ireland.

Explain to us all, the motivations of Islamic terrorist organisations who have conducted attacks in France.

Drop the knowledge bomb on us there Dyr.

I suspect they share this attitude

Truth is that these people are here and they are doing their stuff

Where are they, what are they doing, and how do you know about it?

I've absolutely no doubt that if you lined up every Muslim in the country, you'd find one who sympathises with ISIS or at least thinks there might be some merit to their argument. But I'd be willing to bet you've more nutcases who think along the lines of Gemma O'Doherty and definitely way more who are half itching to pick up weapons again at the merest hint of a border in the north.

Should everyone of the same demographic of these people be thrown out of the country they way you'd like to throw Muslims out? Or is the argument about potential deaths only a convenient covers story?

Jesus, people are really going out on a limb. I'm well aware of Irish fatalities and casualties from Islamic terrorism.

It still didn't happen in Ireland, and they were not targeted because they were Irish.

My core salient points on this thread have been that Ireland is not immune from Islamic Terrorism, however, it is unlikely to occur and I have provided rational, well founded, legitimate and internationally accepted reasons but Boards know best.

That doesn't mean we 100% won't experience an attack, it just explains why we haven't had one, particularly at the height of Jihad operations in Europe.

Our main threat is from radicalised sympathisers and Muslim converts or people with mental health issues who are already living in Ireland. Because thats what the empirical evidence indicate.

Foreign terrorist fighters aren't even a current worry for us. Less than 3% of FTF's who return to home countries engage in recidivism. Those that do, are focused on radicalisation and facilitation, not attacks.

Those that say that French government actions have not given a reason for Islamic terrorism are wrong, at the very very least, read Wikipedia.

Ireland is being used for support of Jihad operations in Europe. Ireland so far is not a target or the end result of Islamic terrorism.

I suggest you contact you government representatives if you want to campaign for more to be done.

I suggest people separate their emotions, bias, various "ism's" they may hold from reality. Having a Muslim population is not a guarantee of experiencing Islamic terrorism, its absurd to think otherwise. It may increase the risk, of course but not a guarantee...otherwise we would have an example of an Irish attack...wouldn't we?

Not only that, even if we had 0 Muslims....they can travel to conduct an attack, scratchy head time.

If your beliefs are held by racism, anti-immigration, Islamaphobia or far right influences just say so. I myself am a proponent of stricter immigration policies.

I am not an Islam apologist, just because I know more than you. Get your head out of your hole's. I'm open to debate, I'm not open to absolute to bullsh1t or insinuations by people who can't counter debate.

Also, its ok for any of us to be wrong.

I'm happy for people not to agree with me, however, come back to me after you have analysed every completed, foiled, failed, inspired, alleged and confirmed Islamic terrorist attack in Europe since the 1980's.

Come back to me when you understand the psychology and motivations of Jihadi terrorists, including the methodology and tactics.

Come back to me when you know about terrorist funding, recruitment, radicalisation and exploitation of the vulnerable and Islamic terrorism.

Come back to me with knowledge and information, not lazy soundbites.

We can chat then.