General British politics discussion thread

One obvious trend from the polling is the Greens gone from below 3% in 2019 to generally 8-9% now. The vast chunk of those gains almost certainly coming from disaffected young and ethnic labour voters who have been offered precious little by the present leadership which may figure it can do without them if they can regain ground in the red wall. Time will tell on that. Just over 6 months until London goes to the polls so that should be quite revealing. The deputy labour leader of Camden council in Starmers constituency defected to the Greens yesterday which is another worrying sign.

Regardless of the percentage for greens they will sadly only end up with 1 seat. I doubt they will dent the labour vote either because the labour/green tactical vote and swap vote is very strong on the ground.

As for London thankfully they are not voting on FPTP so people (like myself) can vote green and also vote Labour (or anti Tory) so it should not have a major impact

I mean, they had elections last May in which the Greens made huge gains, mostly at the expense of labour. More than doubled their haul of seats and wiped out labour majorities in strongholds like Sheffield and Bristol. If the current trends persist, it's odds on they'll make significant gains in London and their performance in recent mayoral and assembly elections augurs exceptionally well for them.

Its not going to translate to national elections but they still should be targeting 3 seats. Bristol South has a big labour majority so it's a big ask admittedly but Labour's popularity is diminishing there and there's a realistic chance of an upset. Or a close run contest at least.

Jo Cox all over again.

What a despicable crime against democracy. Agree or disagree with his politics if you will, but this man picked up a nomination paper and put himself forward to make his community a better place. He and his constituents are fully and absolutely entitled to engage without fear or hindrance and this is as much a treason as it is an empty and senseless murder.

We could talk about the level of public discourse and the disconnect between people and politics in the UK in recent decades, but thats maybe for another day.

It'll do no good to the public to find out what the motivation was. It'll just be used as extra fodder to demonise one viewpoint or the other, by having this latest crazy associated with them. That said, I'm sure it'll still come out soon enough. But for the police, it would be useful information because if it's not a lone wolf attack, there could be a network of others aiding and abetting or planning similar things.

The man they arrested is not Somalian he is a British national of Somali heritage, the exact facts matter when it comes to things like this.

It'll be interesting to see if Angela Rayner will temper her language following this murder.

She only referred to the Tories as scum recently.

In one of the replies to that tweet, the following is quoted from John Stuart Mill: "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing".

But there is another quote from the same speech that's even more apt: " It depends on the habit of attending to and looking into public transactions, and on the degree of information and solid judgment respecting them that exists in the community, whether the conduct of the nation as a nation, both within itself and towards others, shall be selfish, corrupt, and tyrannical, or rational and enlightened, just and noble."