Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

It is Covid which has wrought destruction on the nation. And most other nations. Not lockdowns.

He said it in that article if you read it. He also tweeted it!

https://twitter.com/CillianDeGascun/status/1449547697871065096?t=THeS545kkY8hmepGY9ER8w&s=19

Fauci said months upon months ago that fully vaxxed have similar or even higher viral load than unvaxxed. I think it's clear the vax is good at stopping severe disease but is kind of useless at preventing transmission therefore vaccine passports are a complete waste of time, only used as coercion which is morally and legally wrong.

Those comments from Cillian De Gascun are a bit of an eye opener. Vaccines aren’t sufficient/effective in suppressing or eliminating the virus without other measures and vaccinated/unvaccinated can transmit at the same rate. Where does that leave us? Why can’t they tell us about any plans to increase hospital capacity or why they won’t bring in antigen testing. Without those two things I think we’ll be stuck in an endless loop.

Lots of people are still affected by covid restrictions.

There is something really useless about people saying "just accept it all and move on". It reminds me of people being handed a **** sandwich and being content because they cut the crusts off.

We have to move on though. The vaccines are allowing this.

The government need to announce clubs and full gigs on Tuesday and get those people back to work.

Extending the green cert is pretty much a given. I think they may let nightclubs do their thing with a green cert. Antigen testing is another option from government and they can point to that successful trial run of a few weeks back.

The only restriction might be advising a slowdown in the return to work. Glynn has already given a message on that.

This is exactly what everyone is forgetting

Tony is on annual leave and will return to digest the data tomorrow. Only then will our fate be decided and confirmed

People have short memories of last Autumn. Back when all members of NPHET were satisfied that the numbers were stable and just needed to be monitored. Tony returned the following day and mandated a lockdown that he didnt want to lift for 8 months,only for the government decided we should have some freedom for Christmas in Ireland.

If vaccine passes are retained we've been sold a complete pig in a bag yet again. We could have opened up last June with vaccine passes.

I cant understand the lack of value Irish people put on basic freedom or even accuracy behind what they are been told and accountability of those making serious decisions.

1,380 today when there is realistically 2,000 cases today given recent trends. Gives them 600 "spares" to report either on the day of the NPHET meeting or later in the week we'll get a 3,000 to shock us into feeling we need to not roll back on restrictions.

This has happened before.

How have the hospital figures increased so dramatically?

Why don't they just give us a weekly total of cases, the daily count is not giving a clear picture of where we are. Differences of near 40% per day in the same week. Today we 'turned the corner' at 1380, yesterday we turned in to a ditch at 2180, tomorrow might be 2260.