Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer/Gossip 23/24 - [New Thread Available]

A manager should be able to have some success once they continue to spend. The issue is it's always one step away. We needed a CDM, next summer we will lose Cavani, Lingard, Pogba, Matic, Mata, VDB. That's a lot to replace.

We heard that a lot in our barren years. The Liverpool way. Only way that matters is the winning way. Liverpool way became synonymous with not winning.

Jesus christ, I mean pay the elite managers that kind of wage, one wanst even getting that much. Yes I do count Klopp as an elite manager. Surely the board looked around, did their homework on what managers are getting paid...clearly not if they gave that lad 7million a year he has no pedigree, no silverware, tactically terrible. Who signed that off. Thats so mind boggling to me.

Until we deal with the Pogba circus any manager has an uphill struggle ahead.

Well, ultimately they make the hiring decisions and they know nothing at all about football or how to run a football club. They haven't put a single cent of their own money into the club. All they care about is dividends and share price. Beforehand they were able to rely upon Ferguson who controlled the entirety of football operations at the club. Since 2013, they've relied on an investment banker and it shows.

Ole has got out of slumps before, but this feels different. I expect he will ultimately be sacked around the November international break. The games against Atalanta (x2), Liverpool, Spurs and Man City could see United dumped into the EL again and completely out of the title race before that break. Surely that would be enough to force a sacking, especially if the results against Liverpool and Man City are the sort of hidings that they can deal out. Most or all of the coaching staff (i.e. Carrick & Co.) would need to go with Ole, as it is Ole's failure to bring in good enough coaches that is going to cost him his job.

A competent, ruthless, well managed club would have sacked him 2 weeks ago (only 7 wins in the last 17 competitive matches against mostly weak opposition, now just 7 wins from 18, dire performances) and spent the international break securing a replacement. They didn't, because its not a competent, ruthless, well managed club. And when it comes to a replacement I fully expect we'll see the managerial equivalent of the Ronaldo signing. I don't envy any manager coming in though. The run of fixtures United have coming up through October and November are brutal.

I seem to remember this argument from somewhere. We all came to same conclusion about Moyes, then LVG, then Jose. They all went, nothing changed.

Well it’s not as if any new executive vice chairman comes in and runs the club differently to what the Glazers demand. Them two being similar is irrelevant. They’re all just pawns for the Glazers. It all comes from the very top.

Ole is not the man to keep, Pogba, Rashford, Sancho, Martial, Cavani, Bruno, Ronaldo and Greenwood all happy. That's 8 players to take up 4 attacking positions.

He said in his post match interview the team lacked balance and he would need to address that...... You know what that means Mc Fred in and Pobga on the wing in the next game.

It's starting to feel like a FIFA career mode where you buy loads of players and then don't have a clue how to set them up.

What is certain is:

1) 4231 with McFred is not going to work without a clear plan to make up for the fact that neither of them can transition into attack very well.

2) Pogba can't play in two. He can be mesmerising at times going forward but he is lacking in defence.

3) Ole doesn't have a clue how to use Mata or Donny. At times this season we've been crying out for somebody with a football brain to come on to help unlock defences yet he insists with McFred.

4) Wan Bisaka is one of the best defenders in the league but by God he is awful going forward. Could be work as a CB in a 3 and use Telles ?

5) There is no game plan, its still give it to Bruno or one of the fast lads and hope they do something.

6) Ole will lose the dressing room. Can't imagine any of the 8 mentioned above will be happy at been benched and 4 of them will need to be.

Look at Liverpool, they can change personal from game to game and still play good football. They have a style and stick to it.

Owners of hugely profitable, prestigious club giving manager alot of money to purchase players is just a done thing really. Not something that should be overly praiseworthy. Especially seeing as it's not really coming from their own pocket.

Anyhow, yes there have been alot of bad signings made by every manager since Fergie left. The Glaziers are obviously not at fault for all that, my point quite simply is that they are at fault for much of what is wrong at the club.

If we won a league playing 3-4-3, would people be complaining that it's not "the united way"?

No, they wouldn't.

The United Way is winning titles.