Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

What are you on about that is not a source,Karina Butler literally said this morning on radio 1 that 80% of icu patients were unvaccinated. I am paraphrasing what she said,IF that figure is wrong then Karina has got it wrong,Don't be shooting the messenger

And what are you on about conspiracy forums? Leading Government and NIAC officials are quoting these figures and suddenly I am making up stuff!!!!

It seems to be beyond the HSE to count and publish the vaccination status of the 69 to 75 people in ICU at the moment ...the only published data goes back to April the first and wierdly enough that figure is 70 %....because the vast majority of the country was not fully vaccinated during the summer .... Give people the information in a timely manner .... remember the WHO said the vaccine will not solve this pandemic on its own ...Rte were rightly praising the HPV vaccine rollout last night on the news and saying 80% take-up was amazing and in the same program hunting down the 8% unvaccinated ...strange times indeed

And here we go again

"The CEO of the Health Service Executive said he does not think the recent rise in Covid-19 cases means hitting a "panic button", but it is a significant early warning that people need to continue to follow all the public health guidelines."

These people need to stop preaching, people have tuned out. If things go bad again its purely because they failed. Collectively, NPHET, The politicians and RTE.

We have minimal herd immunity due to pointless restrictions over 2 summers due to their failings.

What percentage of the unvaccinated have underlying conditions.

I found it interesting when listening this morning that 'excuses' of a sort were made every time vaccinated were mentioned but the same was not put forward for unvaccinated.

Even some the arguments that anti restriction people were making six months ago were put forward - but only in relation to vaccinated icu admissions and deaths.

There is something murky going on and the unvaccinated are being used as the whipping boy.

Unless you can see the figures? What do you think her source was? Given her official role and is in receipt of reports from the HSE. Think about it.

Do you need to see every report from the HSE to backup statements to the media by NPHET, NIAC or members of the government about covid?

You have no grounds for doubting the information.

To say, there's a lot of confusion about these numbers, if they are going to make a big deal of them they should be in the daily report is one thing. But to jump to "yes it seems she just made up a number" is conspiracy theory territory.

So you are the one making up allegations, utterly without foundation, that Karina Butler, Chair of National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC), has gone on the national media, and made up a number about patients in ICU.

This is obviously just a smokescreen.

Listening to Paul Reid earlier, it’s pretty clear that the hospitals are already at or close to max capacity. Personally I think there’s been too much focus on vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Over or close to 90 % vaccination is a huge majority. I don’t understand why they don’t have antigen testing. That could surely allow us to open up. And the absolute shambles of our health services, hard to know where to start there. Also, do we have any idea of underlying illnesses in patients?

You talk some sh1te to be honest

"in receipt of reports from the HSE"

The same as all the other data like daily cases, number in ICU, deaths, discharges etc, etc,

Any relevant information is published. There is no secret society passing % vaccinated between themselves.

"no grounds for doubting the information"

What information? 70%, 80%, 67% its like playing bingo.

Leo came out yesterday and said if we can't open on the 22nd it's because of the unvaccinated,Ronan Glynn berated them the day before,Now you have Karina on the radio again this morning,We have the highest vaccine rate in the EU and the few who decided not to get it are being blamed

If you can't see the agenda the last 48 hours then you are very naive. Government and NHPET officials flooding the media blaming the public and turning them against each other,thus deflecting from their incompetence.

No one in their wildest dreams would of said at the start of the year that close to 92% of adults would take the vaccine. Yet the 300,000 who didn't take it are the reason we can't go back to normal, Come on wake up and smell the coffee. And if that is a conspiracy theory then fair enough

Yep we have a fantastic vaccine performance, yet we dragged the absolute arse out of restrictions for nearly 2 years and now we are being primed for another delay in the reopening plan, whereas in England its unrestricted since the summer but our health minister started blaming them yesterday.

The RTE / GOVT / NPHET alliance are an absolute disgrace at this point.

You think?

There are plenty out there.

Lads!!!! If ye are listening to newstalk now! There’s a serious serious gombeen on! She’s definitely a plant on the show! Foreign accent and absolutely need to keep all restrictions! Christ!!