Mayo GAA Discussion

Where did you get that quote about effectively privatising the Mayo senior team. Was it some joke article?

Sounds like Brolly on a wind up?

Fanofconnacht’s suggestion, literally jaw dropping

They think it’s Newcastle United they’re buying

Afternoon Green and Red

i am still lost where you think Tim O'Leary held the Mayo County Board to ransom? He only asked how his money was going to be spent and the reply from the county board was that is none of your business. He did not ask for a place on the board and wanted NO control in any decision making though like many others who have done well for themselves he was happy to help if asked

Before the ill-timed (maybe planned) tweet #Horanout, TOL and James Horan had a falling out over James Horan failure to produce a €150,000 business plan required for additional funding for the team preparations AND TOL refused to issue a pre paid credit card with €35k. Their relationship was effectively terminated and this was confirmed by TOL pledging all the money and future money towards the academy.

Horan therefore had no need for TOL so it was only a matter of time until things blew up

FairPlay to him not keeping the money and giving it all away to local charities like Mindspace, Mayo and Roscommon Hospice.

Did you know that this year Mayo GAA have not being able to feed the boys form the academy after training sessions? Do you think James Horan cares? Not in the slightest. He convinced the MCB to increase his expenses to €60,000 per annum.

You are right about one thing - that is Mayo GAA cannot be bought and it is bigger than any one person and that includes James Horan, TOL and even AOS.

Please also consider this. Do you think it was appropriate that James Horan was fighting and arguing in the final quarter of the AI final with his selectors such that they all stormed off and sat in the stands with the players. Im the most important 20 mins of our season and with the game still there for the taking, our leader lost his cool and nerve when we needed him most. Comapare the mayo bench to the Tyrone bench who were working together as a team

More of the same from TOL and Co. If No. 18 is referring to what I presume it is then it’s a particularly trampish question based on gossip and has no place on anything to do with Mayo GAA.

Other than that a fairly vile attack on Howley and AOS amongst others.

No. 13 is Ger Caff’s job AFAIK.

Not sure why the county board would need to be involved in where the team stayed. How would a review of the 1989 final would benefit Aidan Orme or Tommy Conroy?

Is this the kinda micro management that these crowd are proposing?

Any decent point he does make is lost amongst cheap shots and trampish comments

Isnt a massive jump to get to TOL from here

I believe WMD is a fella originally from Swinford, has been living in London for some time now I gather. I won't put his full name here.

That particular twitter account was always responding and interacting with TOL's various accounts with the same stuff often times the only ones having the discussion, so it's not a stretch to say the 2 were connected.

*edited to include the bit in bold, and to correct some grammar.

It think I'll be staying away from this thread for a while if as it seems Tim and his Twitter friends have opened accounts on here.That sort of toxic shìte is the reason I left Twitter.

It's a shame as it was a decent Mayo community on here,we might not have always agreed on everything but for an online forum it was largely free of the dirt that we've seen the last few pages and I can imagine is only going to grow.

I've seen the exact same thing happen on Twitter and infiltrate a few other sites aswell.Its not just somebody with a different opinion to me (which I've no problem with) but a concerted and somewhat organised campaign from our friend in London and a few of his online buddies to spread disinformation and division.

I'm not going to engage as it only gives it oxegen.Pure poison.

sounds good to me! is it worth putting some money on knockmore to repeat last year success?

Doesn't look a good bet at the moment! Big game v Charlestown coming up, it's on mayogaa TV.

Westport seem to be the most impressive team so far, but as we're coming into winter will bad weather on bad pitches cancel out their speed and skill?

big question is will cillian return for ballintubber this year? westport are the coming team but 2021 might be a little early for them especially as the weather turns. Breaffy will be there or thereabouts

they are going to be a very tough nut to crack in 10 years time given the investment into the youth system and new pitch.

Let us assume for a moment that these questions were addressed to Dublin County Board instead of Mayo. I would expect that most of 24 would be easily answered by them with exception of a few items.

Rather than reacting with horror and conspiracy theories we need to just coldly look at these questions and put them in their proper context.

I would put them under 4 general headings or 4 general questions

• Was there a well thought out and appropriately considered plan in place. (Points 1,2,3,8,9,17,19)
• Was there an appropriate organisational structure (including rewards) in place (Points 5,6,7,9,10)
• Were there agreed standards of organisational behavior in place and were these adhered to (Points 4,11,12,13,14,15,16)
• Was there \ Is there a proper feedback \ learning structure in place (Points 3, 20,21,22,23,24)

(The only point I could not categorise was 18, as all counties are small, GAA scene is smaller still and unless 100% outsiders hard to avoid conflicts of interest. Neverthe less conflicts of interest still need to be recognised and managed as best as possible.)

Any organisation that cannot clearly and easily answer the above questions in the affirmative with supporting evidence needs significant improvement.

It would be interesting to see what reaction of County Board would be if a Club formally addressed these questions (or similar) to them. My expectation is that they would either ignore them, pooh pooh them or say that will be answered later following a comprehensive review, (which of course would never happen).

Lack of accountability and transparency in a public organisation is not a positive.

It's a PR battle.

Clubs want league games to be played, Horan doesn't, county board says play them, mass hysteria from the bandwagon to sack the board because the senior manager doesn't get his way and no all Ireland will be unless he does

Rinse and repeat.

Most powerful person is not mayo gaa chairman, it's mayo gaa senior football manager.

Difficult to change the narrative, maybe a few years in the doldrums again would reset the agenda