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eFootball PES 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    I don't have a PS5 yet so only downloaded it on PS4 but sweet Jesus is it rough.

    All the fears are coming to pass. It is a pretty good football game for a mobile, but an embarrassment for a console / PC release from a AAA publisher.

    Played Fifa in ea pass last night and wasn't that impressed either. We have actually somehow ended up with no good football games.

    Konami has well and truly fucked it. Setting up your team is a nightmare at the start. And to limit is to 6 pkaystyles.

    Was playing with Argentina in the introduction game and the ball landed to Messi on the wing - went for a run with him but if it didn't say Messi under his name I wouldn't have been able to tell you who it was. Everyone feels the same. Absolutely everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    I think the general consensus is that it's been dumbed down so that it's cross-platformable for mobile players - ie. It's a mobile game that's been ported to consoles rather than the other way around.

    Such a shame to see a game you've loved for the best part of 15-20 years killed off like this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh


    I'm stíl really enjoying last year's Efootball 2021 season update (XboxX), think I'll stick to it and try not to get sucked into the new game if its as rough as its made out to be. Such a shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    This year's version is now the worst rated game on Steam. Yikes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Fantomas9mm


    How have they fucked it up so bad ?


    Like seriously ?

    Pro Evo’s gameplay was always its big advantage, how have they fucked it up ?


    Anybody know themidnitekid who does Pro Evo vids on youtube ?

    Seems to know what he is talking about and i think he was even invited over to Konami at one point for an event.


    Young Irish fella but can’t place the accent .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ItsHoggie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭bennyc


    Well f$%k it anyway... I activated the 10 hour trial of Fifa from EA Play and as much as I am ashamed to say I actually liked it🤢 , I would love to say I can get over PES and get on with it but I can see myself buying Fifa, really hope they patch it soon, I can handle the dodgy graphics its just the gameplay is terrible.

    I didn't bother with the PES 21 season update, anyone know of good deals out there ? I think I could start a master league on it to tie me over for a few months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭dasdog


    I still call it ISS - it's pretty much the only game I play or played anymore. Getting slated :(

    During PES’s lifetime we had to endure Pure Football, and O’Leary Manager 2000, and Chris Kamara’s Street Soccer, and the genuinely unplayable Xbox 360 version of FIFA 06: Road To World Cup. Konami’s sequel to Pro Evo doesn’t plumb such depths – but it’s still dreadful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ItsHoggie




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,233 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yeah, I've played nearly 400 hours of PES 21, now, and it's a very solid football game. There remains certain annoyances like the scripting and occasionally clumsy AI, but if you're on PC you can even mod some of that out, and you can mod in a whole lot of other stuff to really take it to another level. If Konami stick to their guns with this new direction for the series, I'll probably be like those people who never stopped playing PES 6 but just kept on updating the option file every season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Can't believe the mess that Konami made here, it's honestly a disaster.

    Legitimately two years to overhaul the PES series and they ruined it. I can accept the free-to-play model but Gameplay/Graphics still have to be the essential part of the game, and both are a borderline disgrace.

    I don't think there's any going back from here on the 2022 version of the game anyway for them. It's like a useless TV show, once people tune out, they aren't just going to come back willy-nilly.

    A proper statement would be needed here stating that they made a large mistake with the marketing of the game and the game itself. If you were someone that pre-ordered a player pack or one of those things, you'd be disgusted right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,233 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Looking at the history of poorly-made video games, there's usually more of a story to it all than mere incompetence, and a common story is management interfering and telling the developers what they want rather than just letting the devs to it in order to make the best game possible. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some ructions at Konami HQ. My personal theory is that the devs shat this out at the last minute to spite their bosses who were pushing for a mobile-centric platform, and force the company to change tac due to the backlash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Yeah I'm sticking with it too. Currently on my 9th season on Master League. I've had to raise the difficulty level. I thought about giving FIFA a chance, but i watched videos and it looks rubbish. Its about the gameplay, not having all the club and player right.

    Actually when it comes to the rights with PES, I found the lack of stadium's more annoying than clubs. I find myself trying to remember before moving to a new club if they play in that bloody Konami stadium or not. The lack of stadium variety in some leagues is really annoying also. You could be playing the same master league every night for over a year and move to a new club in a different league and suddenly play in a stadium you've never seen in the game before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭mossie


    Played a few games of the new game last night. It's a frustrating experience. I haven't experienced any of the major glitches but some minor annoyances. The ability of the AI opponent to intercept passes is unreal. Referee is (as always with Konami) crap and it's so slow to respond to commands that you need to anticipate what you want to do well in advance. If they could sort out these and a few other issues it would be playable but still need huge work to improve the visuals etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Winning Eleven on the PS1 was a better game. It's as dreadful online as against COM and will not be fixed with a patch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Version 1.0.0 pushed out to spring now

    Absolute fck ups



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    They be better off remastering one of the old games now from the ps2 era and just update the teams i'd be happy with that as they were brilliant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭Acosta


    They should have cut their loses ages ago, listened to their customers and just released a PES 22 update.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭tigger123


    They've pushed the 'fix' to January 2022. At this stage, it won't even be playable until its time for eFootball 2023 next September.

    PES 2021 all the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    They're done. There's no way back from it. If they needed two years to produce that excuse for a game, a few extra months won't make a change.

    I've FIFA 22 and love it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Hadn’t played any PES since the initial disgusting release of 2022

    Been playing FIFA the last few months instead

    Had local game with brother of WEPES 2021 there. The gaming experience is so, so much better than FIFA. It actually makes FIFA gameplay look like garbage.

    So sickened what they’ve done with the game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭Acosta


    A question, as I've not had a Playstation since the PS2.

    If i buy a new PlayStation, download PES 2021, can I still download all the fan made updates for clubs and stadiums?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    On PlayStation, you can download updated kits and squads as well as classic teams if you want. Stadiums can't be edited but can be "renamed".



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Janessa Hissing Pocketful


    I download this recently but when I get to the home screen the only two options I have are; play online or play vs. computer.

    All the other options are greyed out. I can't click into MyTeam for example - the option appears onscreen but is greyed out.

    Any ideas what's going on? Am I missing something right in front of me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Not missing anything. Version 1.0 (the actual game) hasn't been released yet.

    This is one of the biggest failures I think I've ever seen in video game history (especially given the size of the company/game historically).



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Janessa Hissing Pocketful


    Ohhhhhhhh. So that's what the (in)famous Version 1.0 is.

    I presumed it was just a few important patches of some sort. I didn't realise the full monty hadn't been released yet.

    Fuck me, that's bad alright haha.

    Cheers for the reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    my god im shocked at these reviews


    then again i havent played it.


    Pes 21 is an excellent game that im playing everyday on the PS5, not a bother on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Is anyone actually playing this or have people switched to FIFA?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    They're actually onto EFootball 2023 now

    As my comments previously in this thread have noted, they've absolutelty ruined the franchise. There's nobody playing it - If they are, they're in denial

    Everything about it is a mess



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I played it yesterday (as it updated itself to 2023 rather than being a new game in the true sense).

    I can't stress how disappointing it was.

    Essentially the game is now all about Dream Team which is the equivalent of EA's Ultimate Team. Then there is one other gameplay option which is a one-off friendly game between 2 of 25 teams. And that's your lot. Gameplay is fine albeit of a lesser quality to efootball 2019 yet feeling surprisingly empty. The responsiveness and general flow of playing is fine offline but it utterly shíts the bed online.

    I'd be surprised if the franchise is not dead in two years at most.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,842 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Ya it’s ruined - Completely based on the mobile game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,312 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Not being able to skip opposition celebrations is reason enough to uninstall it



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