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I think your assessment of LVG as over the hill and in a retirement home is misguided. He came within a whisker of landing the treble with Bayern in 2010, just 4 years before coming to OT (lost the Champions league final to Inter. But he did win the domestic double). Season before that he led AZ to a somewhat surprising league title in Holland. And won it with lots to spare, totally obliterated Ajax and PSV.

In 2014 he came within a penalty shoot out of leading Holland to a World Cup final playing some impressive football. His CV was very strong at that time. He not only had the track record of winning and playing a good brand of football - he was a big character and would never be cowed by the enormity of the job at United, as Moyes at times was.

It didn't work out, we spent a lot of money quite poorly during his time as manager. But I would say the appointment in 2014 was a sound decision; the only such managerial one we've made in the last decade. Personally speaking it's the only appointment that made sense post Fergie. I like a lot of the positives Ole has brought and he has transformed the dressing room and morale. But he was, lets not forget, a caretaker manager - who is still in the job almost three years later.

The only thing that get's Ole sacked is not making top 4.

With our squad, anything less than a CL or PL would be failure IMO.

Look I agree with everything you say about the Glazers, and believe me, I hate them just as much as you do.

But giving out about them is almost futile to be honest, they aren't going anywhere.

The same fans that broke into OT and wear green and gold scarves will still show up every season wearing the latest adidas jersey and flock to the megastore to get the latest big name attacker signing printed on their jerseys.

So forgetting the owners, the reality is, we have an outstanding squad, capable of winning the biggest trophies, but a manager who'd do well to get a job in the Championship. So for me it's the possibility of winning things with a good manager, or the certainty of winning nothing with Ole.

As long as idiots keep lining the Glazers' pockets, they aren't going anywhere.

Why ? Salah plays as the right wing forward in the Liverpool team and look how many goals he gets .

LVG is seen as a failure of a manutd manager but if he had these players at his disposal he would be getting alot more out of them than ole is .

Tomorrow night's game will be a tricky one.

We never beat Villareal, they always seem to frustrate us. Thats going way back to the mid-2000s. They are the draw specialists in La Liga right now. They're unbeaten drawing 5 games out of 6 including 0-0 vs Real at the weekend. And they've only conceded 3 goals. We need a plan to break them down, rather than just hoping a star player can produce some magic. Emery will have them set up as a strong defensive unit.

Looks like a lot of defensive changes are on the cards too. AWB suspended. Maguire and Shaw both missed training today and are unlikely to play.

Will anyone accept 1 point as a decent result? Surely not.

Squad is nowhere near good enough to challenge for major trophies never mind winning them. Midfield is poor, defence can be dodgy at times.

The defence is more than good enough.

The midfield, while in need of an upgrade, would look a lot better if they were actually coached to perform a specific role within a system, and also the manager plays Fred every week and won't use technical footballers like VDB and Matić.

I don't want to start sounding like a broken record going on about ten Hag, but Ajax are such a brilliant team to watch. And it just shows what quality coaching can do for a team that isn't full of world class players.

No disrespect to Ajax, but I feel he'll be the top choice when a managerial position becomes available at one of the top clubs in Europe. If Utd had any sense they'd be sounding him out to replace Ole already.