Ryder Cup 2020 [Official Thread!]

Harrington isn't their employer.

Poulter wins another Sunday singles! Some record.

Best team by a mile won. Time to move on.

So he didn’t. Thanks for confirming. What if Patrick Reed made the team? Would it then have been stricker’s fault that he was carrying some timber?

Jaysus lads this is all a bit OTT. Fitness, losing the dressing room, bad management...? Wtf .

Those two teams could play next week or next month on that course and the result wouldn’t be much different. If you let Europe pick the US pairings they still wouldn’t beat them. Look at the singles results, completely outclassed. They’re just way better at the moment, simple as. And there’s no shame in it either. All this other stuff is like Shamrock Rovers saying they could have beaten PSG if they’d only played 4,4,2 instead of 3,5,2. No offence intended Rovers 😀.

I think we’ll have two more defeats, that course in Italy doesn’t look like we could do a Paris National on it, and then another home win for the US, and hopefully with the right setup down in Adare, GMac as captain and a few fresh faces, we’ll turn them over again.

As an aside, for all the stick he gets, and I certainly would not have given him a pick, fair play to Poulter for winning another singles match.

The demise of the European tour is a significant part of the root of the problem.

Every aspect of the game is increasingly US based and it is not an easy journey to get onto that swing of US college / pro golf.

The guys who are on way out grew in the European tour and flipped. This will be harder and harder to do.

Yes people will do it , but our pool of players at highest level is diminishing.

Mcginely didn't help matters by broadcasting at every opportunity what the Europeans template was. He was like a spy in our team room after he left..

Hopefully a few youngsters can emerge out of Europe like Hovland, it's been a while since we've had top class talent come through.

Some have arrived and flattered to deceive in recent years probably not helped by the mess the European tour is in.

Hopefully the Danish lads are as good as they appear to be.

@Russman If you let Europe pick the US pairings they still wouldn’t beat them.

Brilliant and so so true

In general, I think they could improve the Ryder Cup if courses were set up according to criteria laid out by an independent committee e.g. speed of greens, width of fairways, severity of rough and even approx guidance on tee and pin placings each day. It would make for a 'fairer' set up for the visiting side & might help garner closer results& finishes, and hence better viewing & a few more away victories.

As it is, courses are just being set up for the home side which means the away side are playing them & the 'house'. Not easy.

But that is the whole point of it - Winning on ‘away’ soil (which it isn’t even that for most players anymore).

Its the challenge of going to someone else’s course who sets it up their way and seeing if you can beat them. An Independent committee would end that challenge.

Anyway - Why these arguments just because USA destroyed Europe. I don’t recall them ever having complaints like that when they were getting hockeyed.

We're clearly the underdogs and you'd expect the Americans to win the majority of these. The world rankings are flawed and I wouldn't quite say that they accurately reflect who is the best in the world, but they're a decent guide. And they blow us out of the water in them.

But golf is a funny game. It's far less predictable who will win in a head to head. If you look at the win percentage of the golfers who have played in it, a win percentage of over 60% is exceptional. This time around the American's played great - considerably better than you'd expect them too. The opposite could be said of us. Next time around if we play well, the Americans below expectations we could easily win it. I wouldn't be hitting any panic buttons at this stage.