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Ryder Cup 2020 [Official Thread!]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭techdiver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Hindsight is always a great thing and people like Bjorn would be well reminded of that when they come with the daggers out.

    Paddy can be rightly criticised for some of his pairings and indeed his selection of Westwood, the pairing of Westwood and Fitzpatrick, the over reliance on McIlroy and Hatton going back out yesterday but at the end of the day this was a better American Team that never really left the door open at any stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    In all my years watching the Ryder cup I've never thought about how the singles match ups are decided! Are they picked at random? What level of control do the captains have?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,130 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Captains just pick players 1-12 based on how they want to send them out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    That doesn't really make sense

    There's no way that their two ordered sets of 12 would match up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,644 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    westwood wasnt selected. He qualified for the team on merit.


    The mistake with Westwood is he had his son carrying for him. When he has the wife on the bag he does a lot better. He and the son are not a good combination and the quicker he realises it and makes the business decision the better for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    That’s exactly how they do it. Each captain picks a player to play each match without knowing who the other captain has picked and that’s the pairings. Then announce them from match 1 to 12!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,644 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    the captains decide what order their own players go out in.


    Sticking mcilroy out first is akin to sticking seve out first in his last ryder cup. He'll probably be beaten but maybe he might have all the rough chopped down first for the rest of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Ah yeah I was way overthinking it. They have no input into who they are paired up with.

    Bit of a pre coffee (s) moment for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,817 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    It makes perfect sense, the first on USA sheet plays first on European sheet. Its the exact same as previous days, you pick player(s) for match number without knowing the opposition.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭Xander10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Can only presume Harrington either had the order picked last week or he's hoping that some sort of Lazarus like return to form for McIlroy proves a catalyst for the European team.

    But another 4&3 and the score going to 12-5 isn't going to do much

    It's going to be interesting to see how Rory responds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,996 ✭✭✭Russman


    It could also be an almost double bluff from Harrington. His only strategy is to top load the order, Stricker knows this and would have been likely to top load also, to both counter and to get it over ASAP. The way Rory is playing he’d probably lose to anyone so he might be a sacrificial lamb to use up one of the top American names. And he just might catch fire and win.

    Caveats obviously being they only need 3.5 points so it doesn’t really matter what order they go out in anyway, and all the Americans bar maybe Scheffler are top names and strong enough to lead off.

    I’m wondering could it be pretty much over before the last pair tee off ? Lots of TV execs wouldn’t be happy !



  • Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Like I do think we read too much into this stuff at times but given Europe are chasing massively John rahm deserved to lead them out so to speak followed by garacia and lowry.

    Maybe Rory will show up Maybe he won't but given how he has played he shouldn't be out first, just adding more pressure onto golfer who doesn't really have it right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Rory still hasn't even played 16,17,18 in his 3 rounds, he'll need to have it wrapped up by 15 today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,785 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    The American crowd don't have much, if any, animosity towards Rory-- he's a hugely popular guy so any antagonism is likely to be minor. Plus he is out first, there won't be too much Pale Ale consumed at that hour and perhaps putting him first, and making him centre of attention, will work. Just concentrate on his own game, he has played pure muck each day so if it continues we won't be surprised. However, if he is competitive with 3 holes to go, he will win. And all might be forgiven



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,082 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Weisberger a tad unlucky to find himself in the bottom 6/England team 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08


    Question:

    Once US hit 14.5 points do the other single matches carry on or do they stop there & then?

    Im thinking of it from a betting perspective & wondering what happens the final few matches if US win early.

    Are bets settled on matches on scores as they are?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,082 ✭✭✭✭PARlance




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    Yes, they play to the end mostly to confirm statistics and settle bets.

    It came about I think when EU were hammering US and it was over but Tiger refused to give up. Not exactly sure. Think it was 2002. I remember matches being 'called in' in previous decades.

    Might be a long tough day at stumps for the English batsmen....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭hawley


    It got very hot between him and some of the US fans in 2016. He had one of them ejected. Sticker's captaincy has been excellent. He calmed the fued between Koepka and DeChambeau. Both his and Harry's behavior has been exemplary.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    To use a NFL analogy putting Rory out first is a hail mary throw for a touchdown.


    If he finds form it could ignite a big comeback, and realistically Europe probably wont win unless Rory wins today so you may as well give it a go because Padraigh hasnt got a lot of options left.


    He could have gone out with Rahm, Garcia, Hoveland and lowry who are his best chances of wins today (before seeing the pairings) but he needs something to ignite the team.

    If Rory shows up it could be worth watching, but if he isnt in contention by the back 9 then its hard to see who could turn it around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭touts


    Lowry in the first two makes sense because he is a fighter and if he gets ahead he will gee up every one of his teammates watching him.

    But sending Rory out first is crazy the way he is playing. He could well be 3 or 4 holes down before most of the team have teed off and the momentum will be fully behind the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    To be fair, Rory usually plays well on a Sunday when it's too late.

    He could have also insisted that he go out first to amend the bad 2 days. To send a message to the other players who haven't played well that it's possible. There is logic there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,501 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Might not be very European of me but I'd love to see Finau destroy Poulter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Chesty08




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭badabing106



    These two Danish lads look the real deal. Potential super stars. I wouldn't be surprised if they play the next ryder Cup

    https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/09/05/european-tour-twin-brothers-hojgaard-italian-open/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭dublin49


    was hoping for lowry /Rory partnership but maybe with a different partner on Friday Shane might have contributed even more given how well he played yesterday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,093 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    They are good, hopefully they can keep the momentum up. Next 2 years crucial.



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