2020 officially saw a record number of $1 billion weather and climate disasters.

There are ocean temperatures in the Arctic circle today of more than 10c and that’s with the latent heat of ice sucking up a lot of heat energy

in 50 years time we realistically could see SSTs in Northern Europe close to 27c in summertime

definitely not guaranteed but also far from impossible

I mean this year, there was a Siberian town that recorded 38c max temperature,

your scoffing at these projections will not age well. Although I can see you coming on here in 49 years time arguing that the data is unreliable and it only really got up 26.95c ssts….

The ACE index, that you choose to measure if cyclones are getting stronger , has been showing more and more of an upward trend as time passes

you’re running out of doubt to emphasize.

it’s much easier to be on the winning side of a ‘debate’ when pretty much all of the data supports my argument

you’re left clinging to decades old media articles that were sub par and didn’t stand the test of time. I don’t base my opinion on the worst evidence, I support the best evidence. All of the best available research supports my position. It’s not a coincidence, it’s because I base my position on the best available evidence. What do you base your position on???

Not sure who that's aimed at but I'll bite. We've been through tropical cyclones a few weeks ago and it has been shown that better technology and sampling methods have generated false increasing trends.

Top 20 daily maxima at Verkhoyansk, Siberia, 1895-2019.

Funny how outlandish claims are accepted when 'reported' in the Guardian, but tut tutted at when posted in the Mirror.

Watched this interesting vid last night:

Bit by bit, the suggestion that global warming will result in colder winters is being sold.

Really makes you wonder what caused colder winters in the past, because this is never addressed.

What I found most interesting about this video was the suggestion that it isn't so much SSW events that can lead to cold winters, but stratospheric elongation, which seems to be a new 'finding'.

In other words, the ACE index was your preferred method of downplaying climate change, but as soon as the trend doesn't fit your narrative anymore, you decide that it's not a reliable index anymore

Note that I never fully accepted ACE because it only looks at limited characteristics of cyclones and understates the impact of larger storms

Nothing to do with me. The National Hurricane Center said it.

https://noaanhc.wordpress.com/2021/06/30/was-2020-a-record-breaking-hurricane-season-yes-but/

The mirror is actually a left wing tabloid and would be similar politically to the likes of the Guardian, my issue is with tabloids is that their stories are often lazy paraphrases and summaries of complex stories

I don't usually cite any newspapers when discussing science. I cite high quality scientific journals the vast majority of the time, and only quote newspapers for current events or political stories

Its your side who constantly bring up the media reporting as if bad reporting means the science is not valid.

And yes, the fossil fuel companies have spent billions on misinformation campaigns. According to this study in America alone, almost a billion dollars a year was being funnelled into proxy groups aimed at lobbying and influencing the public discourse surrounding climate change

https://www.drexel.edu/~/media/Files/now/pdfs/Institutionalizing%20Delay%20-%20Climatic%20Change.ashx

Wow, you really really missed the point of that article. It wasn't that science is hard and there's always more to learn, it was that we have observed that there are more than double the number of marine heatwaves compared with historical records, and that our models predict that if we allow warming to increase, then these events could become more than 40 times more frequent. Forecasting where and when they will occur is not possible yet, but they're working on improving that

Only 40 years of very limited observations. No idea if similar patterns occurred in the early 20th century warming.

No mention of natural oscillations, such as the positive PDO.

Clown world.

Ireland starts importing peat following wind-up of domestic production (irishtimes.com)

"According to Growing Media Ireland (GMI), the industry body, Saturday’s large shipment of peat completed a 3,000km journey to reach its destination, compared with an average distance of about 10km when sourced from a Westmeath bog".

“This is the first time this country has had to import horticultural peat with many scheduled shipments from the Baltic states and other EU countries expected over the coming weeks and months to supply Ireland’s horticultural sector,” GMI said.

The material is used in the production of foodstuffs, notably mushrooms, soft fruits and vegetables. Prices are now expected to increase as a result of growers’ reliance on imported material and be “inevitably passed on to consumers”, the body said".

So the very small risk that there might be temporary electricity blackouts in Ireland this winter gets you all bothered, but the very real threat of permanent climate change consequences is just scaremongering

Do you know what causes the most electricity blackouts? It’s storms knocking out our infrastructure. Climate change will make damaging storms more frequent and more powerful, and the worse we let it get, the worse those impacts will be.

On a less series point, I recall that blackouts were a regular occurrence during actual winter storms back in the 90s. Added to the drama and you got to see those big power flashes, lightning etc with more clarity.

So storms are even more dangerous than brownouts then. More risk of electrocution

What do you think is the likelyhood of power outages this winter. Genuine question?

And, if there are no supply driven power outages this winter, will you admit that wind turbines are perfectly adequate and that you've been completely wrong to be worried about the security of our power supply?