Ut depends on whether the innovation is visible or not though. I doubt anyone was looking at pitstops and marveling at how automates the process had become and how they had removed so much human skill and speed from the equation. All we sat was that pitstops had become very fast and pretty much the same in length to within a coupe of tenths.
I thought it was a bit of a fuss about nothing to make the changes, but the reaction to it was a classic knee -jerk f1 fan anti-change reaction.
In terms of the pitstops, bed bull had marginally faster pitstops. Mercedes wer ealmost exactly the same but their mean was throw out by 2 ballsed up pitstops that took 10 seconds each.
But I'm fine with them not spending millions of pounds to automate the pitstops and make them a tenth or two faster and basically all the same. Shouldn't there be skill on the potstop and more room for human error and more room for variation between pitstop times?
Shouldn't there be a skill in driving the car and not relying on engineers telling you what to do and how to do it? So much of the human skill has been removed from driving with engineering advances.
We already had plenty of human error in pit stops.
Bottas/Danny Ric in Monaco
Hamilton in Germany
Russell in Bahrain
Nearly every Haas stop over a few races a few years ago results in a cross thread retirement.
Yes. There should be less interference from the pitwall and it should be more about the driver doing their job. Likewise it should be on the pitstop people to signal when they've done their job rather than having it automated and preempting when they will have their jobs completed. There nothing for me or you to appreciate in the software doing that work.
At the end of the day it's humans who stop the car on its marks, jack it up, remove one set of wheels, attach a new set, drop the car, and take off. Seeing all that happen in under 2 seconds is impressive as hell.
Well I'd agree except the FIA determined that humans can't possibly do it in under 2 seconds without the software preempting when they would have their jobs done to release the car. That was the exact point of the ruling (the point about whether they could do it in under 2 seconds without the software preempting the jobs being done).
Now, it didn't seem to have any actual negative effect so I didn't see the need for a rule change but the point seems to have been that they have to do these jobs themselves rather than having a computer predict when the jobs will be done.
It's similar to saying that it would be impressive to let the sprinters use whatever substances they want and see them run the 100m in 8.5 seconds. But the rules say they cant and likewise the rules say the pitcrew have to signal when their job is complete and not have a computer do it for them.
A Dutch website www.netherlandsnewslive.com has quoted Helmut Marko saying RB may replace Max’s engine at Sochi but they’re going to wait for qualifying and look at the weather forecast before making a decision. He didn’t seem to mention the other grid penalty. I think they’ll do it.
I've seen alot of screenshotsof of weather forecasts varying from rain to washout conditions on twitter today for sochi, if redbull gave max a new engine and there was another Spa type scenario with a cancelled race and half points awarded it would be a well played move.
The surrounding forest was a big factor in conditions not clearing in Spa. Remember it wasn't actually monsoon conditions like what we've seen in Asian rounds. It was just persistent rain with no chance of draining away.
Any other track on the calendar with those exact same weather conditions would get a race going. Even Hockenheim. (although the old track might be questioned) Unless it's monsoon conditions, we should be OK for a wet race.
In light of the statement they released after Spa I don't think the FIA will award any points without some sort of racing taking place so it could be no points for anybody if its a total washout. That would still be good for RB if they do decide to replace it.
Yeah I'd say you're right about that. Unless they could do a serious attempt at racing then they won't do that again.
But here's a question. If max took a penalty and they don't do the race, would the penalty roll over to the next actual race?
Whitmarsh joining Aston Martin, with Otmar reporting to him. I think it was inevitable that there was going to be some changes within the team given their performance this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Otmar moved on at the end of the year with Whitmarsh taking over as CEO and team principle.
So Honda have introduced a new battery pack, and for sometime now. And I thought Merc were sneaky!
Sounds like it is lighter, more efficient and yields more power!
In fairness, its not sneaky so much as its using an upgrade much later than Mercedes. Merc was organised enough to use the upgrade at the start of the year. Ferrari had the engine cheating stuff in 2018 so their programme was set back as they had to design a whole new engine. Honda has always been playing catch up and they designed a brand new engine for this year too. So they're just late introducing their full allowance of new engine parts.
Ferrari will only get the last few races of the year out of their newest parts where Mercedes are getting the whole 2021 season out of theirs.
Great news for a Max fan or anyone who wants to see a change from Hamilton winning again.
Thought Merc only introduced theirs a few races ago?
I thought they used their allocations at the start of the season but i could be wrong. There are a few different components and different schedules for different parts of the engine (ice, MGU K and H).
I saw a list of components and which ones everyone took. I'll see if I can find it.
There are other areas that teams can still improve their PU, software plays a part so it might have been that. I remember a comment about derating at the end of straights.
Fair enough. Software and thst kind of thing is probably a whole industry in itself. I don't think that was covered by the components allowances.
I remember Honda made some big changes for reliability reasons before the summer break. That would give them performance gains as they could run the engine harder because of the better reliability.
I feel Taylor and Virgo are just familiar at this stage. I don't think they're any better commentators than the whole load of younger players coming through. Some a not good, but the ones that are good are as good as the two old boys. Mcmanus gives good technical insights, Hendry is very critical and Ken offers good positive chit-chat.
Nothing wrong with promoting the younger lads and getting rid of dead wood. Taylor is like an old version of Ken offering nice chit-chat but his references are 30 years out of date. He comes across as a sound man but miles out of date for the job. I don't think Virgo was ever that great as a commentator. But he was familiar.
They'll never beat this guy though.
Yeah his enthusiasm was infectious. I started following in 1998 and by that stage he was getting very confused and made it hard to follow at times. He was still good but he would never have gotten the gig in the first place if he was mixing up drivers and teams and all the rest.
But he's iconic. Nothing wrong with moving on, even from a legend like Walker, when their time has passed.
Just realised this is in the wrong thread! Meant to post about the commentators I the snooker thread. Ah, it might as well stay here know.
I figured as much, I just thought I'd save your blushes by steering it back to a motorsports connection.
Head of Netflix considering buying the live rights
Tsunoda explains he was surprised to get another year in F1 with Alpha Tauri. Didn't see\read the interview but sounds like he is being modest.
Coulthard comes out and said "he should pack his little bag and go home, this is not the voice of a racing driver, after next year he has no place in F1".
Seems a bit strong.
Bit harsh from Coultard maybe, I think Tsunoda had performed as expected, competitive with his teammate in a non competitive car and has prob done enough to get another chance! Coultard is old stock from back when it was a prerequisite to be a bit c*nty if you wanted to be an F1 driver. Nothing wrong with Tsu being honest…. Provided he’s a prick on track of course!
Do you think Tsunode has been competitive with Gasley? I don't think he's been within an ass's roar of Gasley this year.
His debut and Baku are the only races where he's been remotely close to Gasly. He's lucky to get another year I think.
Jesus absolute brainfart from me! My bad! I was thinking he’s with Williams for god knows what reason 🙈 no he hasn’t been competitive with Gasly…. I take it all back😂😂
It's just Alfa seat 2 that's left isn't it?
But theres quite a lot of reports that Guanyu Zhou has bought that seat for 35m.
It cant be announced until F2 season is over.
Makes sense for Haas to keep the 2 lads. This year's car isn't indicative of anything and it's all about next year for Haas. Schumacher has shown some potential, Mazepin hasn't shown much of anything good but he brings the money.