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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Trump trying to go after the GOP's most effective senator. I don't think it'll work out the way Trump hopes it would




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,171 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    To the vast majority of the 74M who voted for him he isn't a racist because;

    • He didn't use the N word.
    • They agree with him.

    They're of the opinion if you don't actually use racist terms, there's no definitive proof that you are such. That's their take on it anyway.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’d love to know the breakdown of how many people voted for him in spite of him being a racist v how many votes for him because he’s a racist.


    My suspicion is the latter category would shock a lot of people.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I've said this before , but I remain unconvinced that Trump is actively "racist" per se.

    People basically fall into 2 Categories for him - Useful to him and Not useful to him, that is the primary (only) filter by which he views people.

    You can be useful to him in many ways - You can tell him he's awesome , you can help him think he looks awesome via what he perceives is reflected Glory (see his fascination with Sports stars , Herschel Walker the latest example) and of course you can make him money.

    He will use any and all people in pursuit of his goal of making money and feeling awesome.

    That "use" will sometimes include denigrating one person/group to curry favour with another - It almost certainly has little to nothing to do with any deeply held opinion as he simply doesn't have any of those outside of "Donald Trump is Awesome".

    His limited intelligence coupled with a complete lack of interest in anything other than himself means that he will tend to fall back on the lazy tropes of people of his era - "Jews are good with money" , "Blacks are lazy , "Mexicans are criminals" etc. when speaking because he is incapable of any level of critical thinking or nuance.

    So , statements like this are not his actual firmly held opinions (this was probably dictated by that worm Stephen Miller) but he is just told - "Your base will love this" , so he goes ahead with it because he thrives on the adulation.

    The thrust of your point about the reasoning behind his voters choices are absolutely valid though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Trump has a history of racism towards black people who try to rent in his buildings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,366 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    He's racist.

    He's sexist.

    He doesn't like poor people.

    They are his basic principles.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Yeah the central Parker five may also take issue with the assertion that trump isn’t a racist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,366 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,366 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Not me. I was shocked when over in US a couple of years into Obama's presidency, to hear people I was working for - people I had assumed were rational & intelligent - say things like "that n***** ain't my president". This wasn't in the deep south either, it was in PA.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,811 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    No surprise. Pennsyltucky is what it's known as. But, having lived in NJ for many years including during part of the Obama presidency, this is no surprise, Americas 'besetting sin' is racism.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,366 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    The NYT has some interesting news. Not good for Powell et al in the defamation suit...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,113 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And not good for those posters on here that have continued to peddle to fraud line.

    Imagine, putting yourself in the firing line, making the argument and putting up with questions and some exasperation from other posters, to put out the 'truth'.

    All the while even the people selling you the idea don't believe any of it!

    Talk about being taken for a sucker



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    What ever happened to the Arizona audit?

    That was 100% going to provide proof of fraud.....apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,099 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Something like that should be...SHOULD be...a wake up call for Trump worshippers. Alas, I fear that few of them have the brains or the honesty to reflect on it with anything approaching clarity. When the guy making a claim has a piece of paper in his pocket saying that the claim is bollocks, one really needs to question one's position regarding said guy.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    The “forensic” audit is still going on. You see forensics take months and are super critical

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,338 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy




  • Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd imagine the forensic aspect of it was all of them wearing lab coats and swinging black lights around.

    "You want an audit?"

    "How about I aud-you?"

    ×takes off shades×

    (music)



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Given the song, and its context, double irony points.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The audit has been going on for five months now. I'm sure that for Trump cultists, there's no clash in logic between the idea of the fraud being both blatantly obvious and also needing months and months to prove through deep forensic inspection of ballots.

    And to be honest, the audit does not have to prove anything like the voter fraud it is alleging. It just has to not pop the bubble of the idea that there was massive fraud. I doubt that bubble will be popped, though, even if Cyber Ninjas are forced to admit they found approximately diddly. Every time you disprove one layer of a conspiracy, it just causes its true adherents to believe the whole thing goes even deeper than they thought.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I must be missing something here. Previously Trump claimed that the story was fake, except now he's sueing his niece for releasing the documents... So that means that it's not a fake story doesn't it?

    BBC News - Trump sues niece and New York Times over tax story

    This is surely an admission of guilt?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,024 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If they don't announce the end of the audit, they don't need to announce the results of the audit.

    And so the audit will continue and continue and continue because they know it won't turn up anything near what they need it to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭briany


    They only need to prove a small number of fraudulent votes. One may even be sufficient. The conspiracy theorists, who are the engine of the Trump movement, would do the rest.

    "If they found 5 fraudulent votes in a county that underwent a long investigation, imagine how many there could be in places where they're not even looking!!"



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Powell is WAY beyond saving..

    In a "Seth Rich rehash" storyline , her latest claim is that the Democrats had an aide to Kelly Loeffler murdered and then killed the Law Enforcement officer that was investigating said Murder.

    Appearing last week on far-right preacher Andrew Wommack’s Gospel Truth TV, Powell alleged that a staffer to then-Senator Kelly Loeffler had been murdered. That staffer, Harrison Deal, 20, was killed in December after his vehicle was involved in a multi-vehicle accident.

    “I think what we are dealing with here is pervasive and very, very dark,” said Powell. “It’s organized. It’s well funded. It’s pure evil. They are willing to kill people, à la Kelly Loeffler’s aide in Georgia, who was suddenly blown up in his car on the way to a rally for her.”

    Powell then claimed that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent investigating the accident was “suddenly dead within a week.”

    It’s true a GBI agent died after the crash, but the problem with Powell’s claim is that, according to the GBI, the agency was not investigating the crash at all.

    “A GBI agent passed away this week and there are online rumors that it was somehow connected to the election,” the organization tweeted. “This baseless claim is irresponsible & reckless.”

    Beyond Batsh!t....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,521 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    His tax returns were both fake and private and shouldn't have been made public.

    To be fair to trump, he does let his supporters "pick their own adventure".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,338 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    “I think he is a fücking loser, and he is going to throw anything against the wall he can,” said Mary Trump. "It's desperation. The walls are closing in and it's throwing anything against the wall that will stick."

    Can't argue with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,099 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Like the vast majority of his lawsuits , this will never get that far.

    The article was published a year ago , but he's only feeling defamed and damaged now?

    This is one of I suspect several he has tucked away for when he needs to deflect attention - With the Woodward book released on Monday and the various revelations therein he needed to shift the media attention away from the obvious facts about his engagement and planning in the attempts to overthrow a legitimate election.

    It's a standard "Squirrel!!" deflection move.



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