All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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When vaccination started the world was told that it will be voluntary, not mandatory, but now certificates and proof

of vaccinations ARE required to enter certain places and restaurants, and employers threaten to fire employees

who refuse vaccination. What happened to VOLUNTARY? The Lies will be permanent.

The Tobacco industry bribed thousands of doctors to promote smoking, are you denying this?

While that particular picture might not be genuine there are hundreds more that are.

Tobacco companies conducted a carefully crafted, decades-long campaign to manipulate throat doctors into helping to calm concerns among an increasingly worried public that smoking might be bad for their health, according to a new study by researchers at the School of medicine Beginning in the 1920s, this campaign continued for over half of a century.

Why did you post it though?

Did you know it was fake when you posted it or did you not check before posting it?

Why did you not answer this question when you were asked the first time?

And no, I'm not denying the tobacco industry did this.

"conspiracy loons"

Your words, not mine 😉

No, i didn't know it was from a game but the sentiment is the same as the hundreds of real smoking ads back then that where backed by Doctors..

At least you are admitting that doctors accepted bribes to lie about what can injure and kill people. The world hasn't changed much when it comes to Greed.

OK. So why didn't you check it before posting? It took 5 seconds to find out it was from a game.

Why did you not admit this the first time you were asked?

Yes doctors did do that. It doesn't follow that they must therefore be doing the same for vaccines.

So what is your proof of vaccines not working?

Says it all really.

I've no issue with companies making money. Me, my family, friends, colleagues got access to an effective vaccine relatively quickly during a pandemic.

I presume you and your family are vaccinated, yes?

Also, do you think measures will be permanent, and if so, why?

Video games companies make vast profits and we hear nothing about it. So it's not about the profits.

It must be if something is essential. Supermarket chains make massive profits, literally our lifeline, but we hear nothing about that.

Hmmm

And this is the important part

"Just because some doctors in the past were bribed to market for something harmful"

Many were not even doctors.

"To allay fears, tobacco brands hired throat “doctors” (that is, models dressed in white coats) to explain that dust, germs or a lack of menthol were to blame, not the cigs themselves. "

And back then the harmful links to Cigarette were not known

"Doctors hadn’t yet discovered a clear link between smoking and lung cancer, and a majority of them actually smoked cigarettes. So in cigarette ads, tobacco companies used doctors’ authority to make their claims about their cigarettes seem more legitimate.

To the modern-day reader, the pitching of cigarettes as healthy (even to youth and pregnant moms) and the use of doctors’ endorsements may appear horrifying. Yet before 1950, there wasn’t good evidence showing that cigarette smoking was bad for you."

"The first cigarette company to use physicians in their ads was American Tobacco, maker of Lucky Strikes. In 1930, it published an ad claiming “20,679 Physicians say ‘LUCKIES are less irritating’” to the throat. To get this number, the company’s ad agency had sent physicians cartons of Lucky Strike cigarettes and a letter asking if they thought Lucky Strikes were “less irritating to sensitive and tender throats than other cigarettes,” while noting “a good many people” had already said they were.

Unsurprisingly, many doctors responded positively to this biased, leading question, and Lucky Strike ads used their answers to imply their cigarettes must be medically better for your throat.

I never implied it was all doctors, I'm just countering the implication that any sort of mistrust on medical science is based entirely on cigarettes. There's plenty of reasons to mistrust any company, pharma or otherwise, chasing multibillion dollar contracts. Especially ones who have been found to act unethically over much smaller amounts of money.

I never said they manipulated any evidence around vaccines, there's no proof of that, at least that I'm aware of. That being said they didn't really need to, the bar was set pretty low to begin with.

My family took the vaccine, I did not. I have no issue with anybody making money, everybody should be free to make money. But that hasn't been the case recently has it?

If the pharma companies got burned too early, then they may be reluctant to develop a vaccine for future pandemics, but they are clear in the profit now, billions upon billions, I just think the IP should be handed over now.

Some things have the potential to become permanent I think. I think if the governments can make forced vaccination stick, then it won't end with Covid. The problem is, what if this all happened 15 years ago?, then when swine flu came, would Pandemrix have been mandatory, I think probably yes. That's a big concern for me.

And other measures, while they may not literally be permanent, the Government will be far more likely to reintroduce them having already succeeded once. So are lockdowns permanent? No. But have we seen the last of them, probably not imo.