Mayo GAA Discussion

That's awful rubbish, have you ever played football when the opposition are on top and are pressurising every possession and shot? To accuse lads of being lazy and not trying hard enough in an all Ireland final is just ludicrous. Question their ability, athleticism, team preparation etc.

I feel a lot of comment in last week has been a venting of people's frustration rather than a cool analysis of what happened. Piling on AOS and others has gotten very personal, comments sections on social media are best avoided.

It strikes me Horan would be a lot luckier manager if he was more willing to take on board advice from others, he seems to always have one of his own clubman by his side regardless of their previous experience in the game at this level. If Cillian was available last Saturday would we have 4 of his clubmen in starting 15??? Substitutions were a real head scratcher as were lack of ideas when chasing the game. Horan has done exceptional work developing players but has he the wherewithal to realise he needs to delegate where others are better equipped to contribute.

Do you mean Cillian is the specialist forward? I think that's the problem, we haven't got enough of them. We have to get more scores from our half forwards in crunch games to get over the line.

Sorry if I've misunderstood you.

As others have said Horan would make a great minor or U20 manager in terms of developing players, but when it comes to senior you need a bit more to you, especially in AI finals and he simply does not have it. Similar to Peter Keane really. Just lacking that tactical awareness, the ability to come up with a plan that works, game management, selections and substitutions.

As for Horan saying Mayo now have a strong squad, he must be joking! We've no midfielders bar Ruane who had a poor final. And we've very few scoring forwards.

As for piling in one player, that shouldn't happen. But Mayo have a serious issues in certain areas, so all the guff about a bright future is tiresome from the likes of Horan.

The man talks a great game, after the game is over. Great managers make the changes needed during the game.

I agree with all of that, and yet any intercounty player should kick the misses he had in the last 2 games in his sleep. At some point sentiment has to come out of it, other players get hauled earlier for less

I`m not a great fan of this giving a manager just one year, if you are going to give anything give two or nothing. To me one year has the whiff of a dead man walking. and no great help to a manager or a squad.

As if this week couldn't get any worse... slán Ciarán!!!

https://www.midwestradio.ie/index.php/sport/51115-strong-speculation-ciaran-mcdonald-has-left-the-mayo-management-team

Apologies. I mistakenly though this year was the last of his current tenure,

James Horan has had 7 years, yes his current arrangement includes another year. He has failed to win an AI on seven occasions, do we really expect that next year will be any different. Time to move on and give someone else a chance.

His record is a lot worse than the Brian Macdonald who supposedly had the squad pusing a bus or car around the car park in 1992 during training. His record was managed one lost one.

if you lose round 1 or in final still a failure to win an AI.

What business would keep a Managing Director who had failed to achieve his objective 7 years in a row.

Kerry are dumping Peter Keane after 3 years even though he delivered 3 Minor AI's 3 years in a row. We can expect that Kerry will win their next AI before Mayo as they know how it is done. Mickey Hearte is one of the Greatest GAA managers ever, but when he went past his sell by date Tyrone got rid of him and won a further AI with potentially more to come. Tyrone will also win their next AI before Mayo.

That was the start of JH's 2nd term or 5th year in charge. Since then Tyrone have changed manager, probably a significant amount of players and won another AI. JH \ Mayo have lost 3. As regards complete over haul of the team, 11 of the Mayo match day 26 this year featured in the 2017 AI (Harrison, Keegan, Durcan, McLoughlin, O Shea, Boyle, Hennelly, D O Connor, Coen, Loftus, C O Shea), hardly a complete overhaul. It would have been 12 if COC was not injured.In fact 5 go all the way back to 2012 final (6 icl COC) Horan 1st as Mgr.

As critical as I am about mgr and team I would not say they over achieved reaching final. They were 2nd best team in AI and fully deserved their place in final. If they had won it would not have been an overachievement, it would have been fully deserved.

If horan would team up with rockford, i think it would be a masterclass. Rochford to develop the matchups, horan to ensure goalkeepers or something daft isnt attempted. Both to holder each other accountable. Rochford, whatever you say about him, he was so enthusiastic and motivated. i think he didnt develop youth - which Horan would compliment on. my sunday night brain fart

I often wondered the same, but judging on the way that Horan goes through selectors I don't think he would work well with Rochford at all.

Likewise!

probably, but the equation is only as smart as the fella writing it. a SWOT analysis is whats really required. When you look at Horans strengths, some are Rochfords weaknesses and vice versa. Your equation (🤡) also leaves out facts. Horan and rochford both have the closest records of beating dublin in an all ireland final. In an era when dublin presented the (undisputed) greatest football team ever. Both managers did what they could, with their own shortcomings, and the limitation of having hte 2nd best player in each position.

PS, your language is deliberately very insulting to the two people involved. What have you done to support the cause? how many time loser are you?😂