Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [ POSSIBLE SPOILERS ]

Evade · 09-09-2021 07:51PM

It looks like they're leaning more towards Human a supremacist state like the Terran Empire in Enterprise. Given the timeframe it looks like the change could be altering how or even if the events of WWIII unfold.

Depending on the exact date Picard an co. travel back to there could be 3 other Starfleet officers running around San Francisco at that time

TheValeyard · 09-09-2021 09:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869688#Comment_117869688

Three that we know of....

flazio · 09-09-2021 09:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117866746#Comment_117866746

Enterprise E and the Cerritos both had buggies.

TheValeyard · 09-09-2021 09:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869912#Comment_117869912

Why not a hover buggy? I never understood that scene. Unless the planet had some magic anti hover mode minerals

Evade · 09-09-2021 09:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869992#Comment_117869992

It's weird alright. It can't even have been about budget because there's a very similar sequence later on in a hovering vehicle. A throw away line would have done a lot to justify it, it's not like Starfleet hasn't ever looked back to solve technical issues, the TR-116 being a prime example.

09-09-2021 09:53PM

That looks real bad.

pixelburp · 10-09-2021 07:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869992#Comment_117869992

IIRC the buggy was Patrick Stewart's own idea, who wanted to muck about with a dune buggy and had it worked into the script as a set piece. Given nemesis's director had never watched Trek before, it was probably an easy sell and got no pushback over the contradiction of character.

That story alone has told me that the actors themselves are often the worst people to be gatekeepers for fictional characters.

odyssey06 · 10-09-2021 08:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117866745#Comment_117866745

Move futuristic scifi series to contemporary Earth to 'save the future' \ 'save the budget'

*Flashbacks to Galactica 1980*

pixelburp · 10-09-2021 08:46AM

Oh it's 100% a budget thing. But you know, that's not necessarily a bad thing either. Runaway budgets can often mean no self-reflection or examination in the writer's room. Being forced to focus on the characters might bring some much-needed structure to the show.

I'm the eternal optimist, I know 😁

Evade · 10-09-2021 09:46AM

Is it cheaper though? There's a lot of location shots in the trailer.

pixelburp · 10-09-2021 10:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871199#Comment_117871199

On balance, I'd say so. Location shooting is only as expensive as the tax credits on offer there: otherwise, there are is no need for custom set dressing; the myriad of costumes for the extra; all CGI to fix background detail; and so on. Even episodic shows like TNG, predominantly taking place in the same 4, 5 sets would have still incurred more cost for all those once-off costumes, sets and FX.

flazio · 10-09-2021 10:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869992#Comment_117869992

My logic would be, why waste energy fighting the planet's gravity if you don't have to.

Evade · 10-09-2021 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871355#Comment_117871355

Starfleet use hover technology for almost eveything else. If they were worried about wasting energy why spend energy making an artificial gravity field on a ship/station then more energy on an anti gravity trolley? Without roads or set paths hovering gets around a lot of obstacles too.

Rawr · 10-09-2021 12:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871530#Comment_117871530

I guess you might have some situations where the anti-grav tech couldn't be counted on, and having a wheeled car might be needed.

Evade · 10-09-2021 01:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117872024#Comment_117872024

You might but the hovering shuttle near the end of the sequence kind of ruled that out in that case.

AMKC · 10-09-2021 09:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117872107#Comment_117872107

Ye that whole scene did not make any sense. I think they just done it because they thought it would be cool and young me did think it was cool. Maybe Patrick Stewart did not think the director would take what he said seriously bit as soon as the director heard it he said ye let's go for that it would be coolvespwcially with him having no Star Trek experience or knowledge.

AMKC · 12-09-2021 03:51PM

I only just looked at the trailer on You-Tube today and all I can say is I like it. Yes it might be a way of saving money but I look forward too seeing what they do and how they do it and we have Patrick Stewart, John De Lancie and the Borg Queen all in one show. What more could you ask for. I for one am looking forward to season 2 of Picard.

jakiah · 13-09-2021 11:06AM

So they are introducing a fascist Federation and having the cast travel back to the 21st century? This can only mean one thing - they want to enable their diverse writing team of non-star trek fans to tackle their favourite subject - woke politics. None of your pesky utopian Roddenberry stuff required.

Think ill give it a miss.

Brian? · 13-09-2021 06:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883924#Comment_117883924

Not this nonsense again. Roddenberry created a socially progressive Utopia. TOS had the first ever mixed race kiss on TV. TNG was full of social commentary.

If Star Trek isn’t woke, nothing is.

jakiah · 13-09-2021 07:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117886386#Comment_117886386

Woke isnt progressive, its regressive. The politics of the victim, with Picard flagellating himself for the crime of being a successful white male, all set against a fascist dystopia. This isnt Star Trek.

Brian? · 13-09-2021 08:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117886413#Comment_117886413

Ah give over with this.

It’s a thread about Star Trek not Jordan Peterson.

Stark · 13-09-2021 08:53PM

"and still too many wimmin in modern Trek.

PS: I am not a virgin"

Sad Professor · 13-09-2021 09:00PM

Keep it friendly please folks and enough of the culture war stuff, thanks.

Sad Professor · 13-09-2021 09:10PM

I am throughly underwhelmed by that trailer. They seem to be doubling down on everything I disliked about the first season (pretty much everything). Once again they are actively avoiding the continuity while sprinkling in references to the half a dozen episodes of the show they watched. It makes me sad that they wasted the opportunity to give Picard and the TNG crew one last adventure together. Like Discovery I think I am done with this show.

odyssey06 · 13-09-2021 09:28PM

I thought Enterprise already battled Space Nazis to save the future...

TomSweeney · 13-09-2021 09:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117886822#Comment_117886822

Question, do you think it will be a realistic portrait of the 24th century that EVERY top scientist , leader, admiral etc is a woman ?

I mean, It's the 24th utopian century sure, but wouldn't a closer 50/50 model be more accurate ?

It seems they are trying to make up for past sexism in the show with sexism in the other direction ...

Also would the Picard we know from TNG allow himself to be spoken to like that ?

To be cursed at and told to "Shut the f*ck up" ?

Would he just meekly accept it like this new 'modern' Picard does ?

Brian? · 13-09-2021 09:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117887053#Comment_117887053

They aren’t.

jakiah · 14-09-2021 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117887053#Comment_117887053

Its impossible to believe its the same character. At least with Discovery you can ignore the show, this series has ruined one of the best loved characters in ST. Awful stuff.

pixelburp · 14-09-2021 09:53AM

Id ask maybe people wait til the show airs before judging it but it's also obvious some have decided their bias.

In more fun news, the show runner shared Picard's food choices from his replicator: minus points for "french fries" which IIRC in France are just called "frites" (fries lol)

https://mobile.twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1433845136165728258

jakiah · 14-09-2021 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117888483#Comment_117888483

The first season already aired. They turned one of the greatest heroes of the ST universe into a doddery old gobshite whose sole purpose appears to be harangued and abused by appallingly written, obnoxious angry women. For what? Its pathetic.

RedLetterMedia cover it perfectly here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQdf93e63I&t=1065s

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Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [ POSSIBLE SPOILERS ]