Mayo GAA Discussion

Oh stop. Do you ever see the antics of the Smalls, McMahon or McCarthy for BAC? Absolute thugs. Keegan never like that.

As others suggested, if AOS not good enough to be a starter anymore, then he's not really going to offer much off the bench either I think.

There's no curse. Mayo will win when they have enough good players, particularly in attack, on the field. It will come if you keep at it.

There is something seriously wrong with the aidan o'shea situation

When was the last time he was 7/10 + against decent opposition versus the number of times he's poor or worse.

Taking him off against Dublin was the winning of that game, he was terrible yesterday and yet remained on

His relationship with the manager is seriously questionable. Read the article yesterday about horan how in 2010 he was going to change the mayo mentality and attitudes but clearly he cannot practice what he preaches

Grow a pair. Do you think any of the top players don't walk a tight line. Pure horse manure. Every dog in the street knows he is a top player and in order to deliver the result will do what is necessary. The problem with Mayo is we need about another 12/13 of Lee Keegans.

Would you stop. There are much worse things going on in the game at the moment.

Thought Tommy Convoy was very good but just wasn't fed the ball enough. Constantly trying to drive and pull the team through it, just a pity some lads around up didn't have his mentality.

There is no question that Horan has changed the Mayo mentality.

The 2000s and the year before Horan arrived is a decade where they were beaten by teams like Westmeath, Cork, Fermanagh, Derry, Meath and Longford.

And were hammered in big games by Kerry.

Horan changed all that, they became tougher, stronger etc.

Since then they have only missed one SF.

So I don't think you can accuse Horan of not practicing what he preaches when it comes to Mayo's mentality.

However as for AOS yesterday, it's a common belief by us outside the setup that taking him off v Dublin was the winning of the game.

That's easy (and lazy) analysis for us lay people, but maybe management saw it differently, they could have come to a different conclusion about what was the winning of the Dublin game.

So maybe Horan left him on in the hope that he might do something, maybe Horan was seeing other failings all over the field that were leading to the losing of the game and not just O'Sheas ineffectiveness.

Who would you have brought in as a sub for Aido and did you think there were others on the field that were having equally poor or worse performances?. To my mind there were 3 or 4 other players who should have been, and some eventually were subbed off. Part of the issue was only 2 of our substitutions looked effective, the rest did not.

There’s no point in throwing on a sub for a player if it’s not going to improve the situation. Horan isn’t there to make decisions to appease the mob on Social media that seem to revel in abusing amateur players.

It may seem like the same annual conclusion for Mayo supporters but I think they can take huge positives from this year, and the future is brighter than where they are now. Some new players have been introduced, others have come on further. I don't think any of the players that may be considering hanging up their boots are irreplaceable.

They were clearly second best yesterday but if you'd asked me at the start of the year how Mayo would fare I wouldn't have thought they'd win Connacht, let alone reach the AI final. I hope they can take the positives and keep the faith.

I think Horan gave Aidan the benefit of the doubt and an opportunity to set things right from the semifinal. But when it was clear he wasn't getting to the pitch of things, he should have come off.

Still I don't think he was our worst player. Matthew Ruane essentially played himself out of contention for player of the year yesterday. Loftus was awful too. And the two of them together in midfield were a disaster.

If it was the Sympathy McGuire - Mayo's name would be on it, from what I'm reading here! Tyrone played better ball and were deserved winners - 13 time is a charm Mayo!

Malachy clerkin as always fair and on point

Basically we had enough chances to win the game from good positions but blew it

I thought he was poor too but i watched it back. He actually had a good second quarter, setting up several chances by winning ball and good use of quick hands. He missed a good chance for a point alright, the goal one was a harder chance and a great block. Others had poorer games. Durcan had a poorer game for example, but he has barely got a mention. In the second half he was moved out the field which i think was a mistake on the line rather than osheas mistake.

I take your point with barrett but i was just trying to make the point that only two guys we had last that year could have turned the tide. Put in harrison instead, same difference.

I think people saying we got the breaks arent right. Tyrone got a lot of breaks. Ohora hauled down heading for goal, no card. Mccurry hauls down keegan, no card. Tyrones persistant fouling when mayo got a run at the goal, no cards. Im not blaming the ref, i just think the narrative out there isnt really accurate. Kilpatrick could have gone with ruane also. Watch it back with a cool head and this becomes apparent.

The goal spooked us. We took rash shots on and they didnt come off. That killed us. We couldnt win any breaks, which gave tyrone a platform. They kept their composure and were a nice bit cuter. They deserved to win it. Hopefully odonoghue can get over the penalty miss and becomes the player he can be.

Agreed on the mcshane goal. Oshea was in similar positions and we didnt deliver the ball. Im not saying it is a definite goal if we did, but the truth is mcshane was fairly poor in the game besides (have a look at the free he missed - worse than osheas kick), yet he still got the goal when the ball went in. You cant score them if you dont try.

Our malfunction in the middle third was a far bigger issue than oshea. I think we just felt that we were going to win it and now are hurting. Oshea is an easy target. Im not saying he couldnt have played better, but who isnt guilty of that?

Lack of composure cost us (rushed shooting, hand passes going astray when in attacking positions). Mayo Management should employ a top Sports Psychologist, if not we will never win an All Ireland, look at the composure of the Limerick Hurlers, they can thank Psychologist Caroline Currid for that. I am surprised that Lee Keegan was never appointed Mayo Captain, he always delivered the goods in All Ireland Finals, the best Mayo Footballer I have ever seen (I am a Mayo Supporter since 1966).