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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I believe they're trying to insinuate that the letter, Leo hand wrote, and signed was sent without his knowledge. blanch is trying a sly underhanded way of wanting this discussion shut down, but he can't because the proof is there in black and white.

    I've no problem with him being a fan of Kylie Minogue by the way. I actually couldn't give a shìt about the letter either, that's Leo's own prerogative.

    My problem is with those who want it every which way.

    "He's entitled to write to whoever he wants, and his musical tastes are his own personal business"

    Hang on love, if he sends a letter on official state headed paper, and signed off as the Taoiseach of Ireland, well then that actually is the business of the electorate, who can comment on it, praise it or criticise it in whatever way they feel fit.

    "More facetious nonsense. There are thousands of letters sent by the Taoiseach's office on headed paper every week to all sorts of people."

    Hang on now, are these "thousands per week" personally handwritten and signed by the Taoiseach themselves personally? Jesus - how do they get time to actually do anything else, Like what is the point of actually wasting your time posting such utter bolloxollogy, considering the actual letters been posted here numerous times. FFS. 🤣

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Top of the morning, decided to take a peak at this thread, it's been a while, I see the same theme of deflection alive and kicking 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Like yourself I am not a regular poster in this thread.

    Why are people complaining about LV writing to KM?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No one cares he is a Kylie fan but the fact he wrote her a letter from his office on headed paper shows his priority mindset etc., that has us "spinning around" up in arms, mad


    He has become a more attention seeking media ₩hore

    Post edited by JP Liz V1 on

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Pity you can't do "FYP" any longer on this new platform, but I think it would be more accurate to say some people are complaining about people commenting on the Taoiseach sending letters to Kylie Minogue, suggesting it's his own personal business. Missing the fact the letter was literally subject to FOI rendering the "personal business" line as bull.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I hadn't actually seen the infamous letter until I saw your post, god almighty that's s just embarrassing 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It's like something off a Little Britain sketch, that their PM or assistant would do

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Ah yeah that was widely posted about and commented on at the time of its release, I made the same comments then as I did now. Namely that he was entitled to write to her if he wanted, but if that letter drew criticism he should be prepared to accept that, as he made the decision to pen it on state headed paper, and sign off as the Taoiseach of Ireland.

    I also said when the photos of Leo and his pals appeared with Kylie alongside the letter, that he should be prepared to accept people may well accuse him (and justifiably so) of possibly abusing his position to pull a stroke for him and his mates, and I still stand over it.

    kylie-01.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    🤣🤣🤣, now be careful not mention a certain character in the village, all sorts of insinuations will let fly 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Thanks for the explanations.

    What is the real problem with him dropping a line to KM though?

    Ps I am going out to lunch now but I will check back in later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    And agreed 100% but of course how dare you question the misuse of official government letterheaded stationary, shame on you 😏😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wonder did Leo and his pals get free VIP tickets passes as he Taoiseach

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Follow these steps

    1 Some folk think it's funny that he is a Kylie Minogue fan (I personally couldn't give a shît, no more than I care about what people think about some of the musical tastes I have tbh)

    2 some people have defended his right to like whomever he likes musically, as thats his personal business (I agree to a certain extent)

    3 others have quite rightly pointed out that if he writes to Australian actresses and popstars with his Leo Varadkar, Taoiseach of Ireland hat on, then it's no longer his personal life, that's crossed over to his public life and commenting on it either way is entirely justified.

    4 people can't have it both ways. But the fact is when the Taoiseach of Ireland personally writes a letter, and signs it (both handwritten) is completely subject to Irish electorate comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Dropping a line to her through his work is wrong, using his position in an inappropriate way

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Hmmmm………. Lot of very ‘buttoned up’ folk are suddenly springing up here.

    I’d say for some even their hair is ‘ clenched’, judging from their posts.

    One wonders are they as straight laced and dust dry in real life as they appear on these pages.

    From their assessments of Varadkar………..

    Uhmmmm……….. doubt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    One wonders are they as straight laced and dust dry in real life as they appear on these pages.


    Are you suggesting people's online and public personas may contradict their private one Brenner? What gives you that notion?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Wouldn't be a Leo supporter but I'm old enough to remember when we had Charlie in the bosses chair so compared to what he got up to when the country barely had a pot to piss in writing to Kylie seems harmless enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,696 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Did people not read the article?

    The blackmail attempted on O'Tuathail was made in order to damage Leo Varadkar. He was told that some embarrassing information would be released unless he came out publicly and stated that what Leo said about the GP Contract issue, including his Dail statements were false. Apparently, O'Tuathail called their bluff.

    People actually need to read the article. O'Tuathail made the complaint about this blackmail attempt on January 29 of this year. Not yesterday...!

    I am of course not surprised at all that this story is met with the same cynicism by the usual crew.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,696 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    As you say Brendan, a lot of anger out there today. The usual crew spending the morning talking about a letter Leo wrote almost 3 years ago.

    It's the usual stuff. Reguretating the same old shite day in day out, week after week....

    There must not be much wrong with the country or with Ireland if this is their prority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,696 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    You tell me, I am sure they will come back with the usual bingo-inducing soundbites to explain.

    These are the same people who thought that FG or Leo hired some girl to throw a coffee over him.. Yes that is true, I am not making that up, by the way, that is the twisted nature of some people out there when it comes to Leo living rent-free in some people's brains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Surprised to log on to see pages and pages about a letter to Kylie Minogue. Must be a slow news week.

    Don't think there was much criticism when the President wrote to his own musical heroes. Only difference appears to be the people involved.

    https://extra.ie/2021/05/24/news/irish-news/michael-d-higgins-bob-dylan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,696 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Excellent point.

    If one did a FOI request of every single thing any Taoiseach or President wrote over the past 20 odd years, you will probably find dozens of examples of notes and letters like this.

    Again, the only reason this came about was to embarrass a person, to use it as internet fodder to dumb down the message and reduce the debate to the lowest intellectual form. That is the new politics from those where Leo lives rent-free in their minds. Political discourse by memes and 80 characters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Did boards exist back when Charlie was running amok? Are we suggesting that it wouldn't have been discussed if so?

    Was anyone claiming the president of Ireland was entitled to write letters to Dylan as his musical tastes are of "no one's business" because - "private life" etc etc?

    Otherwise that's 10/10 on the deflection attempt bubba, well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Leo is in news against this week from his boyfriend defence letter, Coveney defending and GP friend's blackmail etc.,, he was Taoiseach and is now Tanaiste so he is open to public scrutiny imho and I think he likes the media hoopla around him too, he is nick named Leo the Leak

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    My point, Murph, is that nobody gave it a second thought when the President wrote to his musical heroes and expressed a wish to meet them. The way it should be.


    I do wonder about the people that get worked up over such things. Must be a hard life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    He's also still the subject of an active criminal investigation by the NCBI lest we forget. 🤐



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    How do you know "nobody gave it a second thought" can I ask? Have you spoken to every Irish citizen and asked?

    As for Leo, I personally couldn't care less either, no more than I care about miggeldy writing to Dylan. However in my case I'm merely correcting those who think Leo wrote to Minogue in a personal capacity, and should be devoid of criticism.

    I pointed out that was BS, he clearly wrote to her as the Taoiseach of Ireland, and therefore it's justified that people can comment on it, and it's also justifiable for people to form the opinion he may have abused his position to pull a stroke for him and his mates.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I didn't know Mikey D did that, again wrong too using his position, why not write just as a ordinary fan

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



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