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Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It's no wonder SF are poised to be the biggest party in the State. It's not that they've anything much to offer, but there is a sense they're not as detached from ordinary people. Varadkar going to a music festival in London while he won't allow the Irish entertainment sector to reopen, Coveney using tax payers money to create a job for a friend, FG needs to be cleared out at the top.

    This controversy will be coming back at Coveney for the rest of his career, the sum of money isn't as important as the approach he took. He hasn't been contrite either really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    I'm sure the Fine Gael Reich were...(we using silly terminology?).

    SF are doing the job of opposition and giving any genuine government minister the democratic option of showing their support or lack of support for the liar and chancer Coveney.

    They've also forced Martin to double down on not holding another lying FG minister to account.

    It will also do the good deed of advertising what FF/FG are to the public, not that it's needed, but no harm having a reminder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Now come on we all know it's "chilling" when a FG minister needs to answer questions. FG don't like being questioned or held to account and if they are then those holding them to account are all SF supporters or what ever else they can throw at them. FG and FF just don't get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Nothing burger still rumbling on Lar, and will be for the foreseeable.

    I see Michaél is threatening to sanction FF members who refuse to vote confidence in Coveney.



    Think about that for a second.

    The leader of FF threatening to sanction FF Members because he refuses to sanction the second in command in FG.

    Michaél Martin is a disgrace, there'll be deceased FFers spinning in their graves all over Ireland. 🪦

    Post edited by McMurphy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    I can’t get over this!!! He is threatening to suspend anyone in his own party for not having confidence in a crook from a different party!!!! How can they leave him in power!!! He needs to be removed ASAP…. Absolutely nothing democratic in his carry on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I see the Taoiseach has confirmed he will be applying the whip to FF TD's in the upcoming Vote of no Confidence in Simon Coveney. Is that the Taoiseach doesn't trust his fellow FF TD's?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,860 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Too stupid not to wait until we hear from Zappone one way or the other.

    Typical amateurish short-sightedness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,869 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    RTÉ 3 o'clock news :

    "Leo Varadkar accuses Sinn Féin of playing politics" ... almost like they are an opposition political party Leo


    FG too used to getting their own way and never being held to account



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    I don't think Martin is doing himself any long term favours. He might keep right minded FF'ers quiet by forcing them to vote in Coveney's favour, but I imagine they won't appreciate it. I suppose he just wants to keep the wheels on long enough to finish his shot on top.

    Begs the question, will FF fall apart or walk away when Varadkar's turn comes? Will he be the first criminal, in modern times, to be Taoiseach?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Abstaining or voting against FG and collapsing the government would likely ensure re-election



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is that it, is that all this clown has to say for himself, this must be the first comment from a normally excitable Leo in day's, perhaps he's finished eating the Humble pie the entertainment industry sent him.

    Almost a week of no comment or Defence of his hapless deputy leader, and the minute big bad Chilling SF, start the no confidence process and he's out of the Traps, he's a complete Tool ( Hope my assessment not seen as Homophopic 🧐)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Coveney created a job for someone he knew and was going to use the public purse to pay her, it's absolutely a resigning/firing offence. The motion of no confidence is not frivolous at all.

    It's a disaster for both parties and shows how weak the Government is. He needs to resign or be fired, if he resigned and was contrite there'd be a chance of rehabilitation in the future, but he has done serious damage to both the government and FG now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    You are expecting morals and manners from Coveney? A polished turd is still a turd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Highly doubtful. There's not enough FF vote share. It would decimate FF and at the end of the day FF are about getting into power above anything. They even got into bed with FG twice. Shows they've no identity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i lost respect for him when he described his teen years and sounded normal enough and then his father had stern words or something and he changed his ways and refers to his old self as a waster ]


    he smoked and had a parka jacket



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    If you think you're "going to hear" from Zappone on this one pad, considering she "threatened her doorman" on journalists from her plush NYC apartment block, and considering she's already fleeced the Irish tax payers for taking the long way round. The "too stupid" in that post is ironic. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Obviously he felt very comfortable doing what he did, he was quite irritated when he was questioned about it first, didn't even see the problem with not advertising a public job. It's a total disgrace and the handling of it shows such arrogance, that they didn't even believe they were wrong in what they were doing.

    I actually wasn't that exercised by the whole affair at the start, but clearly Coveney should go, it is an outrageous abuse of his position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,860 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    One way or the other...

    Maybe read posts a little more carefully before lashing out the insults.

    Might I suggest running your index finger underneath the words as you go along?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,935 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I love the way people are saying Martin are causing old FFers to turn in their graves. It's absolute tosh!

    Haughey was the greatest understander of Realpolitik there ever was. The PDs were his FG and just like MM he would have done now what was necessary for the Govt to survive.

    But not before having John McGuinness and Marc MacSharry fed to the dogs. I do miss the old days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Brenda Power (I think ) made an interesting comment earlier, she found it very curious that Zappone with all her FG friends could easily confirm part of Coveneys side of this story,perhaps admit she jumped the gun a little etc, it of course wouldn't excuse all the other Shenanigans, deleted texts etc etc, but it is very, very curious she's not thrown even a gentle life line to Coveney, one has to wonder why 🧐🧐🧐

    I've no doubt abject embarrassment is the main cause of her silence but perhaps there's more to her silence

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    You can suggest whatever the hells bells you want auld hand, however the "one way or the other" doth save no blushes on this one sham. She's already told journalists to shag off, so unless you think we should wait until her dying day when she shuffles off from this world to the next, in case "the other" happens is a non runner.

    Btw, what makes you think it's ok to insinuate others "too stupid" to see something, but it's an "insult' when pointed out there's an irony in your post?

    Blueshirts caught with their knickers around the ankles once again pad. If you're going to try and defend that shyte, come up with something better than that crap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,853 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I hope Cowan and other FF vote against Coveney and MM, stand their ground

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Too funny, Blueshirts, knickers in a twist 🤣😆🤭🤭👍

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It mightn't have been the worst thing for him to call an election over, but MM has gone too far the other way now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Me too, they won't take kindly to being bullied by a fluffy lamb. If any of those FF TD'S that have had the courage to speak out fail to vote no confidence, they are politically dead in the water .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I heard it commented on during the week, ref the spiel Coveney came out with about "Zappone mistakenly believing Coveney offered her a job"

    What kind of a man is he that he never corrected her, not even once in all the months and "let her mistakenly believe" she had a job offer without once having the compassion or decency to put her right?

    The whole story is obviously cock and bull, and the folks pretending that they believe it are only insulting their own intelligence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭Toeuptony


    This doesn't read like an apology to me. In your previous post you said you always apologise when you are wrong and you then apologised for saying that this story would be gone by the weekend, because you felt that the story had actually disappeared yesterday morning.

    The actions of Sinn Fein are entirely correct here and it seems that the SDs would have done the same had SF not lodged their VONC first. Anyone silly enough to forgive FG for this obvious stroke must be a blind loyalist, and blind loyalism to political parties (i.e. party over country) is the cause of most political problems in this country.



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