I was in Blackrock and Dun Laoighaire last night, the streetscaping and just general tidiness and how they look after the place is just a world apart from where I live on the Northside and most of the city centre.
Is that just because DLR council get loads more money to spend on the area because houses are so dear in that part of South Dublin?
Maybe it's because the locals complain when things are not done and they don't just accept no for an answer. There will be always less nice and more nice areas but when city centre which is supposed to be prime location is filthy you have problems. That is on council or Dublin management.
WE don't welcome them we deal with them. If you live near Croke park it is a complete pain
Not on its own. But if you add in boarded up shops, lawless youth, tents on Henry Street, the boardwalk empire of drunks, vacant buildings, litter....well then soon enough the place becomes unliveable. Even more so, if you're from overseas and become the focus of the penny's tracksuit brigade.
They can start with moving all ASB persons out of the city centre. Then applying a zero tolerance approach to littering, ASB, and public/ street consumption of booze/ drugs. A few green areas with public benches in vacant sites would good ( no drunks/ junkies/ ASB teenagers allowed )
Thats it. No additional investment needed. All that will take care of itself.
Well, thats great. Ive been living here for 20 years and working here for about half that - between the canals.
Theres much more than 100 now. They get away with murder on the disability allowance.
Most GAA culchies come up in families & small groups. Apart from looking a bit a daft trying to cross the road, they aren't too bad. Although Ive heard some negative reports about them, from those living beside Croker.
If I wasn't shooing crack smokers off my doorstep for the past year I might have more sympathy. Before Covid, I would have had my head in the sand as well. Lockdown and WFH has been an eye opener.
"Most GAA culchies come up in families & small groups..."
Most GAA supporters from outside Dublin are no more "culchies" than most Dublin supporters are "skangers". 🙄
People from those areas don't throw their rubbish around and generally have civic pride, that's the difference. They are also actively involved in improving the area and will put pressure on councillors to do their jobs.
Those areas receive much less footfall than the city centre. Its day trippers that cause most of the problems with regards to litter. Drugs and booze too, actually.
I doubt it. Didn't the council have to start doing the bins again around Sherriff Street because the residents wouldn't pay for bin tags? They all just chucked it out into the streets.
I don't know. Sounds like a complete load of nonsense though.
Ah come on, as a fully fledged bogman myself you have to admit there is a certain "up for the match" type. The problem is you won't notice me slotting in and heading off. It's the other type that stick out like a sore thumb. They are the same down the country though, parking rules do not apply when attending a match.
This is the nature of war. By protecting others, you save yourself. If you only think of yourself, you'll only destroy yourself.
Things like civic pride and rubbish and pot plants are never to the fore on the minds of those at the bottom of the rung of society, it's the same everywhere. But in DLR it seems like they have a lot more money to spend on manicuring the place than other councils.
Unless you’ve ever lived in Drumcondra you’ve no idea how your fellow GAA supporters behave. Defecating in gardens and driveways (and sometimes leaving a fiver rolled up and stuck in the faeces). Leaving flags and scarves with skid marks and fecal matter all over them. Urinating everywhere except for where they’re supposed to, throwing rubbish in to gardens beside bins provided, vomiting in private property, roaring abuse at anyone that questions their actions, squaring up to people they don’t like the look of & racially abusing Dublin dwellers that don’t have the same skin colour as them.
And the quiet family types have no problem dumping bags of used tinfoil wrappers and plastic bottles on the streets of the capital either.
Croke Park dont help with that do they? Abysmal set up. They closed the toilets before Springsteen finished last time. 80k people dying for a piss out into the streets.
Main issue I have with the city is O'Connell St. Its been a no go area after dark for 50 years now. Junkies everywhere and loads of closed and cheap shops. Our main street is a kip.
But it's not a "no go area". Plenty of people go there 24/7.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was suggesting there was/is a feral muck savage type. I lived in The Five Lamps so only would have got the fringes of it.
Gotcha. I guess some people just lose the run of themselves when they get out of their home county!
Its a ghost town after dark. Theres nothing open and its full of junkies begging. Its a no go if you want to enjoy yourself.
It's not. I've been on O'Connell st. thousands of times in the dark over the last few years. My wife walks home on it every day, sometimes late. Calling it "a no go area" is a laugh. Calm down, stop with the hysteria, you don't know what a no go area is.
yeah but it's not dangerous is what I mean, my 50kg ex gf used to walk the length of it after work every day often at night
No its not dangerous but hardly a nice street to walk down. It used to be dangerous when McGraths was open mind you.
I wouldn't say O'Connell St is a no go after dark but it is a kip 24/7. Would love to see it get a major overhaul and a lot of investment. Same with quays. The Liffey should be a focal point but the streets either side need an overhaul.
There are some works in the pipeline. The redevelopment of Clerys looks great, the plans for Moore St out to the old Carlton are also very promising. Pity the Parnell Square plans have been dialled back to just the redevelopment of St Marys into the new national library. At least its something. There is also the Metrolink and a few more hotels.
Have you ever traveled to Mayo for a match? Plenty of Dubs have and plenty have done exactly as you have described in Castlebar and Westport.
There's no way 80k+ people descend on Castlebar or Westport and reap the havoc that's reaped on Drumcondra. Not a hope.
I'd say the only unlivable issue are the sky high rents for a city the size of Manchester, and probably not even that.
If you want to see real drug problems go to Canada, or even worse some parts of the US.
You're hitting the nail on the head there tinytobe. Similar population, although Dublin is a far nicer coastal city the rents are seriously problematic, twice the cost of Manchester.
I always liked Dublin, or everything but the rents, the attitude of landlords, and the adverse attitude to high rise developments. In Dublin I learned that a building called "tower" is often only a tree stump. The high rent issue produces a lot of transient populations, people coming and going, accepting jobs offers at Microsoft or Facebook, or Google, and leaving at the earliest convenience where they don't have to repay the relocation fees.
Crime isn't that bad in Dublin compared to other cities. Yes, there is drug crime around, it might be higher than one might notice, but if one isn't involved in these things one wouldn't notice.....
Manchester isn't actually that bad if one is looking for an alternative to Dublin or London. Also the coast is near, same as Liverpool, the Yorkshire Dales, the Peak District the Lake District. Wales is also within driving distance. Manchester has a decent size airport, fast train links to London, and properties, no matter if houses or flats are affordable for a salary with a couple of years of experience. There are two decent football teams to chose from as well. People are also friendlier than in London and the South East of England.
Manchester can be very rough though. Also has the worst parts of Engand in it that you see everywhere. Endless Greggs, Pret a Mangers etc. And the food is abysmal. Great fun on a night out though.
Look at the GDP per capita of both cities. Dublin is twice that of Manchester.