DUBLIN IS TOTALLY UNLIVABLE Mod Warning In Post #671

John_Rambo · 06-09-2021 5:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854584#Comment_117854584

Just pointing out that Dublin has to deal with everyone.

corner of hells · 06-09-2021 5:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853389#Comment_117853389

I think their problems are deeper than me making an observation , I'd guess it's the realisation that whatever part of the city they chose to live is probably not for the faint hearted and blaming the whole city of the Dublin is a way of venting.

zom · 06-09-2021 11:53pm

"Yeah reminds me of old news reports when some residents living in Moyross and Southill would defend their estates to the end despite the reality. 'Lovely place, lovely people' and all that to a backdrop of burned out cars and feral kids."

Unfortunately we live in propaganda-driven reality and there is material on youtube from thejournal (!) where social housing residents praise living in the area if you're good in football or fist-fighting :(((( I know thejournal is leftist journal but it shows how self-assured propagandists got.

MyLove4Satan · 07-09-2021 12:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117852725#Comment_117852725

*YAWN*

[Deleted User] · 07-09-2021 10:26am

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Excellent argument. I take it all back.

John_Rambo · 07-09-2021 10:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857231#Comment_117857231

Everyone has acknowledged there's a problem, it's not as bad as you're making it out to be, you admit you rarely visit the city centre, but you're typing all about it here and putting up links from other people. What exactly do you want done about it? What are you doing about it?

[Deleted User] · 07-09-2021 11:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117857326#Comment_117857326

I’m not making it out to be bad at all. Your comprehension skills are lacking. I’ve said continuously that I feel little threat. I mention going in infrequently to point out that I may not have the lived experience of the full time resident I mention being from Dublin because I probably just ignore what’s going on. ( I remember my country cousin getting intimidated on Talbot street, while I noticed nothing because I just walked on thinks my thoughts, she saw a junkie shooting up)

I’m saying that even if it isn’t bad for me, the op clearly has a problem. And while you may be able to walk around unperturbed by the low level air of violence, other people may not be able to do that. They may be a visible minority. They may be female. Instead of taking the op seriously, a woman who had no bias before coming here, there’s a lot of defensive posts denying her experience at all.

John_Rambo · 07-09-2021 12:13pm

OK, understood, great post. I think everyone knows there's a problem. Everyone knows Dublin has been neglected and the pandemic has hit the capital harder than anywhere else in the country.

The city has to start investing in itself big time.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2021 1:59pm

The **** sensationalist nonsense on this thread. I'm in town all the time as are many people I know, no one is being attacked by feral youths. This is like the Joe Duffy show, bunch of moaning aul ones.

murpho999 · 07-09-2021 2:27pm

Hundreds of thousands of people are in Dublin city centre every day and go about their business and have zero incidents.

Yes they're have been some issue but it does not mean it's endemic.

It's just sensationalism by anti Dublin people, the majority of whom never go to Dublin,

Two years they were saying not to go to Dublin because of gangland shootings and now it's ferral youths and random attacks.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2021 3:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117858682#Comment_117858682

No one is denying there's a heroin and homeless problem, I feel really bad for those people and how their lives turned out, but I wouldn't let it get to you too much. But it doesn't really make the place "unlivable" does it? There are what 1.5 million people in the Dublin area who live perfectly safe lives. There are some incidents yes, this could be sorted with government intervention and more police and better services for addicts and homeless people.

That probably isn't happening any time soon because this is Ireland after all.

What do you think the Irish Government should do to resolve the issues that you are so concerned with?

Would you vote for a party promising to pump a load of money into Dublin city centre? Because I would imagine most of the country wouldn't.

Ray Palmer · 07-09-2021 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117858682#Comment_117858682

Now that is an exaggeration. When I worked on Abbey Street for 2 years it didn't take long to recognise who was who. They are very territorial about who goes where. There is about 100 total in the city centre (canals) and they don't gather in mass numbers. You can tell time by where they are. Yes there should be something done about these groups but our laws an constitution don't make that easy. Feral GAA fans have caused me more issues for me than the junkies and they are in the 1000s. They don't seem to understand how to cross the roads with traffic, everything seems to be a once off with little regard to the locals who have to put up with them.

meeeeh · 07-09-2021 3:49pm

Government should take away the ability of councils to discount property tax. If you live in a 600k house or whatever you can afford the property tax. If you can't, move somewhere cheaper.

At the moment we are listening how there are no public toilets and how it's too expensive to pay for rubbish management. For whatever reason well maintained areas discourage bad behaviour. If place gives the impression that nobody gives a damn then it attracts people who thrive in that.

John_Rambo · 07-09-2021 4:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117858915#Comment_117858915

GAA fans visiting Dublin are the worst. Littering, defecating, urinating, speeding in cars and not knowing how to behave properly. But, it's not an every day event, we welcome them and clean up after them.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2021 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117858988#Comment_117858988

Well why are we sending local property tax to prop up other county councils around Ireland if Dublin seems to need the money the most? Makes no sense to me.

meeeeh · 07-09-2021 4:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859052#Comment_117859052

Because you live closest to amenities and have higher earnings. I'm not overly fussed one way or the other but when the richest part of the country cuts property tax then you have problems. It shows councilors prefer to buy voters with few extra tenners or hundreds of euro instead of actually trying to make city more attractive.

Thelonious Monk · 07-09-2021 4:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859074#Comment_117859074

I was in Blackrock and Dun Laoighaire last night, the streetscaping and just general tidiness and how they look after the place is just a world apart from where I live on the Northside and most of the city centre.

Is that just because DLR council get loads more money to spend on the area because houses are so dear in that part of South Dublin?

meeeeh · 07-09-2021 5:13pm

Maybe it's because the locals complain when things are not done and they don't just accept no for an answer. There will be always less nice and more nice areas but when city centre which is supposed to be prime location is filthy you have problems. That is on council or Dublin management.

Ray Palmer · 07-09-2021 5:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859049#Comment_117859049

WE don't welcome them we deal with them. If you live near Croke park it is a complete pain

Parentalunit · 08-09-2021 12:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859752#Comment_117859752

"Most GAA culchies come up in families & small groups..."

Most GAA supporters from outside Dublin are no more "culchies" than most Dublin supporters are "skangers". 🙄

Ush1 · 08-09-2021 9:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859086#Comment_117859086

People from those areas don't throw their rubbish around and generally have civic pride, that's the difference. They are also actively involved in improving the area and will put pressure on councillors to do their jobs.

Ush1 · 08-09-2021 11:07am

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I doubt it. Didn't the council have to start doing the bins again around Sherriff Street because the residents wouldn't pay for bin tags? They all just chucked it out into the streets.

Feisar · 08-09-2021 11:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117861485#Comment_117861485

Ah come on, as a fully fledged bogman myself you have to admit there is a certain "up for the match" type. The problem is you won't notice me slotting in and heading off. It's the other type that stick out like a sore thumb. They are the same down the country though, parking rules do not apply when attending a match.

Thelonious Monk · 08-09-2021 11:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862009#Comment_117862009

Things like civic pride and rubbish and pot plants are never to the fore on the minds of those at the bottom of the rung of society, it's the same everywhere. But in DLR it seems like they have a lot more money to spend on manicuring the place than other councils.

John_Rambo · 08-09-2021 2:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862514#Comment_117862514

Unless you’ve ever lived in Drumcondra you’ve no idea how your fellow GAA supporters behave. Defecating in gardens and driveways (and sometimes leaving a fiver rolled up and stuck in the faeces). Leaving flags and scarves with skid marks and fecal matter all over them. Urinating everywhere except for where they’re supposed to, throwing rubbish in to gardens beside bins provided, vomiting in private property, roaring abuse at anyone that questions their actions, squaring up to people they don’t like the look of & racially abusing Dublin dwellers that don’t have the same skin colour as them.

And the quiet family types have no problem dumping bags of used tinfoil wrappers and plastic bottles on the streets of the capital either.

The Nal · 08-09-2021 2:51pm

Croke Park dont help with that do they? Abysmal set up. They closed the toilets before Springsteen finished last time. 80k people dying for a piss out into the streets.

Main issue I have with the city is O'Connell St. Its been a no go area after dark for 50 years now. Junkies everywhere and loads of closed and cheap shops. Our main street is a kip.