My €100m BEAM scheme

Yeah I meant to kick it on, not that I will meet it anyway, but no point giving it back till the last day possible.

And what exactly are Td's going to or can do about it. It the flawed concept that we should look to the EU for compensation when the market fails to reward us. It amazing the amount of Suckler farmers that still cannot under stand nitrates. Talking to a lad last week, he kicked it on. I said he should load up his stores and sell them now with the prices so strong. No he be ok he had four cull cows to that were going in November 😵 I give up.

But going back to the BEAM the scheme is flawed yes, but the EU will not allow market distorting competition unless there is market reduction measures.

What does “talking to a last lat week” mean, it’s amazing the amount of lads that still cannot spell.

Looking to the EU for compensation for market distorting factors is flawed. Instead of giving your TD's an ear full over BEAM give them an earful about the competition authority. The rules of the scheme are there. There is absolutely no reason for any Suckler farmer to fullfil the conditions. Any lad that kicked it down the road should be selling weanlings, stores and culls to get below the 5%. It up to any farmer to understand there business. No body hand-feeds the local pub owner or fast food outlet on rules and regs it up to the individual to get up to speed.

Ya it a failure on my part to proof read posts. Was never really into proof reading, it's partly as well down to while predictive is turned on l still spell out words individually and do not used predictive to place the word in the post. However my maths more than compensate for that flaw.

As my mother used to say maths was a Reeve's thing as it came from my father's side of the family. Genetics again I suppose

I correct that for you so you can now understand it hopefully

I said 180-200 not 300. Just like some lads are full have **** a qualification for being a Suckler farmer seems to being able to count your own brain cells and most cannot count

People don't have to hate sucklers to deal in facts. I had sucklers until decoupling arrived on the scene. A few quick sums told me to get rid and and go young store (350kg) to beef .Proved to be an excellent decision. Same profit ,less work. BP for sucklers rolling in.

Keep that one quiet, we need some victim to keep the cow, that brings that calf or else we're done too.

A lot that didn’t adhere to the rules may only have gotten small payments, some may only have had small numbers of cattle so a 5% cut was too much to be bothered with and Then there are the lads that were happy to get it but didn’t want to lose out on the chance of turning a few Bob on a few extra cattle so they bought away.

Same as above. Payment was 380. Reference period didn’t go out way. Made no sense to try to meet. But still should have kicked it on to next year even if just from an inflationary value of money aspect. Farm will already make a “loss” this year so the repayment is of no benefit this year.

They would have no problems working it out if they were charging it for probate and they add vat to it as well

I defered till end of year , signed up for it but bull got injured and had 16 sweet cow makers so kept as replacements so I said was great chance for good heiffers not related to new bull . 750 was my payment so what even comes, I do have a lot of culls moved on so numbers coming back to normal but not down enough

A lot of farmers have to do it year in year out for nitrates limit at 170 or 250kgs/ha if you are exporting it importing slurry you need to be able exact as well.its a matter of sitting down and doing the calculation. It fairy easy on a spring calving suckler farm at this time of year. You have fixed stock numbers so it's a matter of seeing what you need to adjust.

Not only that land more than 30km away will not be allowed for use within the nitrates directive. Land outside that area will be flat rated at 170/HA. There will be other little sticklers as well

Did the article not say that if you are genuinely farming land more than 30km away to contact dept? It would appear that genuine farmers may be exempt .

While you can claim BP on forestry you can hardly claim to be spreading N on it. It would appear that the main objective is to curtail N.