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New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Sarcasm before midday on a Monday is a dangerous thing!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,100 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The trouble is most of the people talking about GB News are making fun of it or pointing out the trouble it's in rather than fans of it talking about how good it is. Because even the people who were supposed to be the target audience aren't watching it in nearly the numbers they had hoped, and many who watched in the beginning have dropped off. That's solely down to the quality of their programming not being good enough.

    What was their objective, considering the money and reputation those involved both on and off camera put into it? Does anyone seriously believe investors put so much money into this to "trigger woke lefties" or whatever other buzzwords they use?

    Even if they were happy enough to not make a profit in the hopes that the cultural changes they may affect would benefit them further down the line, they're not even showing they're capable of achieving that. Those watching already agree with everything they're saying, and they're just pandering more to that base to try keep viewership up.

    "Objective achieved"? What the hell was their objective?


    Edit: Ah, see your post above. But I'm sure there'll be some people along soon who'll be saying similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    So anyone who doesn't vote conservative is a lefty loon? Can I start calling anyone who votes right Mini-Hitlers?

    It's the use of facile playground name-calling that is helping politics to sink into the cesspool that it is today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,493 ✭✭✭Morgans




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,973 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Does this mean back soon or "back soon" in the Andrew Neil sense of the term 😂



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That's pretty amazing really.

    Clearly they are struggling to get advertisers to spend money with them, but you'd have thought that they would still be able to fill the slots.

    Either they are looking for rates that don't match their actual viewing numbers and value or they are holding out for "better" advertisers and refusing the take the typical bottom-feeder type stuff you see on the smaller Satellite channels.

    It's probably a bit of both , but no matter what the reason, it's a very worrying sign after only a few months on air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,218 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So, this relaunch. Did it ever happen? I googled "GB News relaunch" and didn't get anything. Looks like Michelle "Dewbs" Dewberry is out as well on a "break".

    It's not going well, is it? Perhaps they could show TikTok videos instead of ads or something.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Another week and another set of BARB figures showing the ever declining viewing numbers. They are now managing barely a 3rd of the viewers of Sky Sports News , let alone Sky News..

    They have shown a decline each and every week since the original launch barring a single week blip upward the week that Farage arrived.

    That allied to the apparent lack of advertisers which cannot be being aided by Andrew Neils very public and obvious absence from the channel , does not make for much of a future for the channel at this juncture.

    As it has ever been , the survival of the station will only be for as long as the investors are willing to give them money.

    And one would have to imagine that that won't be for a whole lot longer.

    They'll probably give this latest "Re-Launch" a few weeks to see if there's any signs of life , but if that fails to shift the needle then I'd say that will be the end of that..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,956 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    All the random people they've swiped from Talk Radio has given Talk Radio a schedule hole to put Jeremy Kyle on... which is likely to be of more benefit to TR than retaining the presenters who left!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    We're still taking about world war 2 as well, didn't mean it was a positive thing.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,256 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,137 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Was farage back on air tonight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,973 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Mentions on Boards is worth about as much as all them claps the NHS nurses were paid so I wouldn't be worried too much anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    How much, ballpark figure will do, do they get paid when we talk about them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Appeared to have been. I'll only ever go as far as the Youtube Channel page, but it looks like some clips were uploaded.

    However, whoever is administering the Youtube Channel should consider working on their thumbnail selections. Farage looks a little extra demented in most of them:

    GBguy.JPG




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Honestly I don't think I've ever seen a photo of Farage where he doesn't have that open mouthed "teeth and gums" expression on this face.

    It's possibly by design by photo editors the world over , but as you say you'd think that his own team would find better pictures of him.

    Maybe the better pictures really don't exist??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,137 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Neil more than likely not coming back, viewer numbers crashing, absolutely nobodies on as "guests"

    Will it make the new year? My guess is no.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Really depends on cash flow. I think I read once that they had enough money invested to run themselves into next year. However it might be that the people running GB News might not want to invest their time and effort into the channel if things don't appear to improve soon. You could get to a situation where the channel is unable to operate before it runs out of cash.



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    Well one thing is for certain Nigel Farage will hang on as long as someone is stupid enough to pay him a wage. The man has no scruples.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,956 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    All the new hires will be dragging on the bank balance at a higher rate than the original staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,804 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    They're definitely not leaving ad breaks empty so they can hold out for 'better advertisers' because I saw a Cash for Gold firm advertising on it the other night so they're pretty much down the bottom of the barrel at this point. It cant be too long until they're advertising 'British Psychics Live' and sex phonelines.

    If they are selling slots to Cash for Gold companies Id say their advertising sales department is in absolute carnage at this point. And they're the folk who are supposed to be bringing in the revenue to pay the weekly wages of the 120+ employees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,804 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    What talk radio employed Jeremy Kyle? Had thought he was persona non grata in the media business but I suppose not.

    Yeah he was, I watched him for 10 minutes. He wasnt in the studio though, Im not sure if they have set up a satellite studio outside London or if it was a studio set up in his own house. Either way he intended conducting his full show interviewing guests from their own homes which is fine for one or two guests but not an entire show.

    He had the former UK ambassador to the US on except this fella hadnt been an ambassador since 2003 and had little to offer. The two of them were bemoaning the degradation of the 'Special Relationship' between the US and the UK. Farage got his hits in on Obama and Biden and harked back to the glory days of Trump ("a good friend of mine"). It was actually funny though as Farage was saying because the US acted unilaterally in Afghanistan that the UK needs to find itself more reliable allies. There was no mention of the UK burning their bridges with the EU of course though. After the 2003 ambassador he had Sean Spicer on but I turned off at that point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,956 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Talk Radio/Talksport have a history of employing those that others won't and seeking the controversial. Keys and Gray after they left Sky for instance.

    Part of GBNs problem is that they convinced themselves they were the only voice in a market that already had outlets. Lots of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Their ad sales is outsourced to Sky Media. Sky were at one stage stuffing the breaks with their own ads, you'd often get an ad for Sky Broadband, followed by an ad for Sky Mobile followed by an ad for Sky Sports. Maybe two bullion commercials and perhaps a more "mainstream" ad at peak times. It seems even Sky have given up buying up the ad space if they've resorted to showing holding slates for 3-4 minutes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    No I think the fact is that TV is still very influential despite those that say that it's all happening online nowadays.

    There is nothing like LBC or Talk Radio on Television, but there is now.

    If one really believes in democracy you'd wouldn't try to shut anyone down unless they are being extreme, and I don't think GBNews is extreme.

    I'd rather see GBNews exist and ya'll take the piss of it than it didn't exist at all.

    There is noting worse than biased media and I think it's a good thing that we now have an opposing channel to the norm, even if they are biased as well.

    There is no such thing as a complexly unbiased news channels. So the only option left if multiple biased news channels.

    I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with anything, but I do have a problem with those who wish to shut down a channel because it's the opposite of where their political opinions lie. That's the kind of attitude everyone should be worried about.

    I would only personally back GBnews on the basis that it is an alternative to the msm. I agree the ratings are crap and it's production has been woeful, but I don't think it's entirely crap. It's funny because the whole point of it is to raise issues that are ignored in other msm and afaic it is fulfilling it's purpose in that regard. One can say it's all so right wingy, but so what. What's the point in trying to drown out the opinions of right wingers. Fight with them if you are so right, you'd think you'd value the opportunity to do so.

    I think that the direction any country goes is, in a democracy, is based off opinions of those in the middle ground, i.e, those that aren't committed right or left wingers. I'd be one of those people. I'm not a lefty, i'm not a rightly. It all depends, at the time. Fight it out but don't try to shut anyone down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,873 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Yeah, I remember Andrew Neil launched the channel he spent about 15 minutes talking about the target that was driving him to get involved in this and risk his journalistic reputation was to have 10 to 15 anonymous accounts on an Irish discussion Board post a handful of posts a day about them. That's the goal, who cares about ad sales or viewing figures.

    FFS, what a ridiculous statement. Is that what you're left with to try to defend the channel? Kinda hoping people will stop badmouthing them for fear of being said to be justifying the channel in doing so. No chance, I'm not sure they'll fold, but I'm glad to see the lack of appetite there is for that brand of Faux News.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,137 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    In regards to this


    "It's funny because the whole point of it is to raise issues that are ignored in other msm and afaic it is fulfilling it's purpose in that regard."


    What issues are being ignored by other msm but being raised by GB "news"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,973 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    What a load of absolute $h1te. You are trying to sneakily link this to "woke cancel culture" by claiming we want the channel "shut down" because we disagree with it's views.

    I want the channel to have no viewers because it means that people don't believe in it's bile. If it has no viewers it goes bankrupt and fails and that is not the same as wanting it "shut down"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,153 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    No one is shutting anything down. Don't be so weak minded. GBeebies is failing under the weight of its own insignificance because the investors thought, or were led to believe, that they were onto a good grift. But they've found out that there just isn't an audience out there for the shite that this channel is peddling.



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