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Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,509 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    What a state this committee is. Most people just using it as a platform to get some free air time and blather on and on and on......

    Is there a question in there somewhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    All I can say is that you are easily impressed. He "ummmed", "awwwed" and stumbled his way through Gannon's questions. Completely incapable of standing up to scrutiny.


    Edit: He also allowed Lawless to walk him over the edge of a cliff.



  • Posts: 447 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The legacy of the last 10+ years of FG in government (and in particular Varadkar's buffoonery and narcissism) - SF now appears to be electable for large swatches of the population

    So when the FG supporters are moaning about SF on various thread look at your own party as to why SF has such electoral strength right now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    No one's really gotten under Coveney's skin this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,933 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    The questioning is not getting to the point.. They all ramble on with a speech rather than a question

    They need to just ask short one sentence questions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,586 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's ridiculous that they are all not in the same room..or that Coveney is not there physically. Makes it all very disjointed and favours the Minister IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,509 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Coveney not going anywhere and actually shines a light on how ridiculous all this is. They are all repeating themselves again and again and Coveney is batting it away again and again.

    Some of them think its a **** court of law and they are Matlock!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    No sucker punches yet but he's not really answering questions, more of a rambling story telling exercise.

    Everyone thinks the sequence of events are Beggar's Belief, except Coveney it seems 🤔

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    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Have to agree, kinda feels like a school debate

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,026 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Coveney keeps saying he doesn't consider it lobbying because he never felt pressured by Zappone to appoint her to a role. That doesn't mean it's not lobbying. The fact they're friends and former colleagues means they weren't trying to appoint her through any kind of pressure, but through their existing friendly relationship. It's still lobbying.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    So a Government Minister seems to be in Breach of the FOI act, Certainly Questions regarding Lobbying not clarified and this Messaging App, Telegram ( is that not encrypted like WhatsApp 🤔), I seem to recall this app was notorious and best avoided , also why were other ministers using Signal. Coveney actually admitted earlier his message to Zappone was through WhatsApp 🤔.

    Coveney has stated the phone was actually supplied by the Department. Coveney sticking to the fact he was not obligated to retain data, very very odd and certainly questionable.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Absolutely brilliant, she destroyed him!! Who would vote for such a loser after that!! Hope he’s finished



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,586 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    This 'grouped' questioning is absurd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Jesus wept, based on Zappone zealous persuit of this job, I'd feel pressured......

    To run a Mile 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It's just Bizzare, I've listened intently to the entire meeting.

    If I were to sum it up

    Everyone and I mean Everyone is Wrong

    And Simon thinks he's right 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭LizardKing


    How is Charlie Flanagan allowed Chair this meeting? Clearly biased



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I can almost predict what the Governments response to this performance.

    Nothing to see here 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,509 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Maybe they should just take turns whipping him and throwing rotten fruit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    That's the way the cookie crumbles, there's share of committee chairs between parties. With a coalition, the split a little more complicated, I'm guessing government parties do get a pick of the plum positions.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,933 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    " dealing with questions in such a comprehensive manner" Charlie must be smoking something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,586 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Don't think it's going away after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    So do we think Zappone will take up the invite to attend?😂 Maybe if we tell her she can fly the long way back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,509 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    And that is that.....

    The opposition looked dejected at the end. They know this is now a dead story. There will be the odd story about it tomorrow in the papers but really its over now. It will be wrapping fish and chips by Thursday and everyone will have moved on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,143 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    That's it, all over. Few outside Coveney's circle believe a word of this performance.

    I can't see opposition parties letting this go at that. Political journalists also not happy. No denying there's growing tensions between FF/FG TD'S, I suspect the up coming think ins will be explosive.

    Dare I say, Coveney likely to survive this, as extraordinary as it seems.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,586 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    In fairness, Charlie chaired it properly, bar that stupid 'grouped question' idea and restrictive time limits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,586 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Zappone will lose all credibility )effectively burning her bridges to anything good she did here-her calling card for the future) if she refuses an invite to come before the committee. Will be interesting to see if the committee votes to invite her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Only caught the end of that …. So basically coveney says he communicated it wrong … my apologies … the end…


    even though he clearly lied, ignored rules and nominated a pal to a role that didn’t exist



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,509 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    To be honest, why should she care? She gave the state ALOT of service and this is the thanks she gets? Some sort of show-trial?

    She won't be attending any hearing or answering any further questions, as per her constitutional right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Coveney again seems very confused. Is his phone compromised or what?



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