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Will there ever be an openly gay Premier League footballer?

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  • 31-08-2021 3:05pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭


    Or is the sport far too intolerant for that to happen?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,789 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    I don't think the sport has any feelings at all.


    Will a Gay footballer come out while being a premier league player. I can't see it happening anytime soon there would be too much pressure from the terraces waiting for any perceived incident to harass the player over.

    The red tops in England have a huge part to play in this too for me as look at how they already treat young black English players. Would they go easy on a player if he came out as gay or would they be out trying to catch them in a personal situation and thus putting them under even more pressure. I think they would.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    There are still too many knuckle draggers on the terraces and in the media to make it comfortable for a player to come out as gay. It would be great if no one gave a fck and it was ok for players to come out, but that's sadly far from the case.

    Having said that you would think more players would have come out as gay after they retired from playing but only a few have.



  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭foxsake


    the media will do nothing but cheerlead

    In fact any negative reaction won't be much to the gayness itself but the vomit inducing fawning and heralding of a new hero by the media (and social media heroes) instead of treating the player like a normal player.

    Its a bit weird the over zealous clamour in some circles to nearly demand a gay player instead of just watching them to play ball.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    It's the politicisation of absolutely everything by progressive zealots


    Ruins everything so why not football too ?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,997 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The media won’t be a problem, the opposition fans or some opposition fans will.

    if a journalist for a media outlet / publication said anything vaguely controversial regarding a players sexuality you’ll have advertisers leaving en masse... advertising pays the bills revenue would plummet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Whatever happened to Ronnie and the UFC fighter fella?


    👀


    Was rumours he was seeing a guy a few years ago but sure he has a wife now...



    Link for those who care about who he sleeps with...



  • Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    What bigots see as "progressive zealotry" is often just a reaction to years of bigotry. It'll settle down eventually, and a sportsperson coming out as gay will be about as much of a story as, I dunno, appearing on pitch with a different hairstyle.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    The WOKE clergy would hate if they had nobody to yell bigot at

    If 5% of the premiership came out tomorrow as gay and the reaction was a shoulder shrug ,the next SJW movement would be about how trans footballers need to come out



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Cristiano Ronaldo would make love to himself if he could, if that counts...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Senior


    No, won't happen. The abuse at the stadiums would be bad, add in the social media harassment and it would be enough to drive anyone over the edge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Back in the 1990s there was a Premier League soccer player by the name of Graeme Le Saux.

    He was straight and married with kids.

    However he endured over a decade of homophobic abuse from fellow professionals and fans.

    The reason was because he collected antique furniture and read the Guardian newspaper.

    Eventually he snapped after being taunted by crypto-rodent Robbie Fowler and elbowed him in the face.

    If Le Saux had to endure all that just because he read a newspaper with more words than pictures, imagine what an openly gay player would have to go through.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭bassy


    The arse sterling..............sticks out



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,433 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Although he only played for the smaller clubs and didn't admit it until his days on the field were nearly over most people had an idea Justin Fashanu was kicking with the left foot because he made no secret of the fact he was going to gay nightclubs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,837 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Hassle from fans aside you would think it would be marketing genius to be the first



  • Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭BobHopeless


    Please no more politics or social justice guff in sport. It's already been tarnished by this take a knee rubbish.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭mohawk


    I suppose when you think about it if someone came out as gay they would be defined as the gay footballer especially by the media. Whenever the players name would be mentioned the word gay would also be included. Also he would he put on a pedestal as a role model for gay teenagers. Football is a competitive environment I could definitely see why no one wants to go first instead of keeping the head down and playing football. I definitely think media are part of reason why because most of public couldn’t care who is gay or who is straight. Then again there some ‘fans’ are pr*cks.

    It’s probably easier after you retire to come out but very few have. It’s not just football though some other sports are the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Its' funny how a simple question has triggered a load of people with a certain mindset "Social justice guff", "take the knee rubbish", "WOKE Clergy", "SJW movement", "progressive zealots", "vomit inducing fawning and heralding of a new hero" .... all this is one page 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    this point exactly........funny how the other half of the thread is people pointing out that an out male footballer (cause there are loads of out female players) would almost definitely get abuse from opposition fans. i seem to remember ashley cole apparently becoming the most famous closeted person in the uk after he left arsenal and that his marriage to cheryl was just a front



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    It's funny that as backward as the GAA is sometimes portrayed that Donal Og came out over a decade ago and no one really batted an eyelid and he's a permanent fixture now on The Sunday Game.

    David Gough is a gay gaelic football referee and no one seems to care either. He's probably one of the more liked referees by supporters.

    I can't see it happen in football (soccer) any time soon. There are just too many knuckle-draggers in the stands. Someone mentioned Graeme le Saux earlier from the 90s being abused even though he wasn't gay, I don't think things have moved on since then really which is really strange considering wider society has.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,045 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Is there any openly gay players in any of the top four divisions in England? if not then obviously gay players just wouldn't be able to live the stick from opposition fans.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    To my knowledge there are openly gay players in the eighth and ninth divisions - in the case of the latter, a bisexual player.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,045 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I wonder as a bisexual player would you get half the abuse as a gay player ?? obviously booing and abuse from crowds sometimes effects even the top players so it is a sorry situation that even players from Division 2 (old division 4) can't come out. Football can be backward in some respects.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Donal Og is dreadful as a pundit , one can only presume he got the gig for the same reason ( the equally dreadful ) Louise Byrne on Prime Time did ?

    a diversity quota needed to be met



  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭RossGeller


    Unlikely in this lifetime.

    That reminds me of the abuse John O'Shea used to get. Rumours about him being gay started circulating and he got abused every week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭passatman86


    You have high standards, would you settle for a championship player. Whats your type


    Edit Thomas HItzlsperger - but i think he was retired



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,997 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Classy guy, after being in a relationship with a girl, he ditched her one month before he was due to marry her, after being together EIGHT years ! Imagine wasting 8 years of a girls life like that, actually proposing to her and then... “ ohhh I’m gay, see ya “ that’s beyond evil.

    there has to be a few but I’d say more will come out in time.... society has to change a bit or football society.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It seems like there aren't any openly gay professional footballers anywhere in the world, that's pretty incredible when you think about it



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭passatman86




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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭uch


    As a fan who goes to games every week, I find it insulting to try to categories players, I regularly call players donkeys or worse, but why does anybody have to bring a players sexuality into any conversation in a game of football, who cares, when you are on the terraces, nobody cares if a player is LGBTQ or anything else, they only care if they are shité or not, if a player needs to come out so be it, but if you are wondering about why there isn't more player out, perhaps there isn't that many,

    21/25



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