Smart Tariff Unit Rates

Energia's 24 hour rate on their cheapest electricity is 15.82 incl VAT. That seems to be the cheapest rate going. https://www.energia.ie/plans-and-switching-info/electricity

Yes for dual-fuel the flogas offer is now the best - depending on how much you consume and if you don't have a Day/Night meter. The best provider varies based on your circs so bonkers is the real source of truth.

With flogas at the minute and been fine in terms of correct billing and decent customer service

That is a fantastic rate. I signed up for the same in March - but 32% was the bigest discount at the time. But I did not see it on bonkers when I checked so I assumed it was not available any more.

Be aware that bord gais free Saturday or Sunday is capped at 25kw per week

I had to do the same with Energia. You just have to switch every year to get the best deals.

Yep. If your usage numbers are reasonably accurate go for it.

Notice electric Ireland doing a 15c smart tariff 24hr rate now so at least the smart rates are starting to flatten out in line with the 24hr meter rates.

My flogas units have gone up to 22c with next rise at start of September. They were 16c in may when signed up and were one of the cheaper at the time.

Switched to bord gais free Sunday plan tonight and nice to have more realistic rates again. Be better obviously if rates start to drop but inmeantime will see out my year on this.

Surprised it took the entire 30 days before being able to switch to a smart plan whilst the meter got itself set up communicating.

fair play. those unit rates i quoted like flogas were non smart meter plans

It seems totally bizarre what they are trying to "offer". I'm well better off staying on my normal 24hr tariff, even with an EV (I will have a solar setup soon). I would rather be charging the car and the battery from the PV setup overnight and helping out the grid which struggles at peak times.

Why?

Unless you have singed up to a new plan, the plan you were previously on still applies.

As said many time, a smart meter gives you MORE choices. All the regular plans and the new smart plans.

Rates though have gone up with most suppliers and there may be more hikes to come. Natural Gas which still produces most electricity is at 11 year highs and still moving with a near 80% increase since March.

Yup....I get what your saying (and 100% agree with you). No, my comment was on the fact that so far to date no energy provider has come up with a significantly better plan for these "Smart Plans" than the existing non-smart tarrifs. This is deliberate, but probably not for the reasons I originally thought (i.e. gouging)

You can imagine the fiasco of Joe Duffy telling all the OAP's on daytime tv "Get yourself a smart meter and save €10/month". It'd be akin to the water meter rollout disaster. People writing letters to their TD complaining why it takes a year to get a "needed" Smart meter, so they can save money.

Course maybe I'm wrong and it's gouging after all :-)

Electric Ireland have something similar to day/night plan as a smart plan, it has day/night and then a cheaper night rater between 2-4am or something like that. I'd consider that if i moved off standard day/night. i think day/night portion is more expensive than their equivalent non smart plan and 2-4 is 6cent.

Then again maybe other providers would still be cheaper.

I don't know about Flogas, but with energia you can only get that information if you're already on a smart tariff in the first place. If you're on a flat 24hr tariff, you get nothing.

My smart meter has been installed almost 2 years, old cottage, rural Laois , I'm assuming they were prioritising older meters being replaced. It only went live about 4 months ago and electric Ireland plagued me to consider new smart tariffs. I've had some fun trying to get them to explain why I would pay 6 cent per unit more than I'm paying now, they mentioned the free weekend day, I mentioned the little nugget in the T&C"s re excessive usage, they've given up. I'm on a plan over 20 years, pay more in levies than I do for electricity, bit of a farce really. So just to be clear, no one is obligated to change any tariff they are on, from my perspective (low user) it would be madness to change plan.

Its always intrigued me that any company supplying a service that costs money, wants you to believe as a customer, they want to save you money with them, it's just an illogical concept and quite bizzare 😁

Pencils will need sharpening before I'd consider any smart tariffs on offer currently.

Really do think that there's more to it than just rates. They aren't stupid. They know people won't actively pursue a smart meter if it means higher bills. However, if they were to release a tariff which has a substantially lower rate, but only available if you had a smart meter, you can imagine the clamoring that would ensue to try and get one. 100's (1000's?) of people phoning them up asking for one to be installed. Since Electric Ireland are the folks doing the swap over and they know it will take years (with the resources they have)..... I'd say they'll just match the existing tariffs until there's enough smart meters out there. They don't want the headache.

Thing is though, is that a smart meter may allow them to generate more profit. It might be more profitable for them to sell you a unit of leccie at 3am for 4 cent than it is for them to sell you a unit at 17C at 5pm due to the fundamentals of what they need to pay themselves. They probably want people on the list, so I reckon they'll incentivize it once there's no meter supply issues.

I'm speculating a little, but there's more to it than a bit of gouging. (though I wouldn't put it past them :-) heheh

I signed a year's contract with ElectricIreland in March and the unit charges went up this month.I like their emails prompting me to go fully smart metering.I must sign up(can't go back)to find out what their offer is.No,thank you

Sounds like smart meters are still to be avoided. Not a good story for anyone duped into getting one.

You can't be forced but i wouldn't be surprised if eventually when rollout is complete that non smart plans slowly become more expensive than smart plans.