F1 2021 Round 12: Belgian Grand Prix

Busi_Girl08 · 29-08-2021 02:28PM

Just to confirm, is it a 3 hour window for 2 hours racing or 4 hours? I thought it was the latter. Or has that changed today due to the conditions?

Harika · 29-08-2021 02:30PM

Four hour window, race time 2 hours.

Race will be chequered flagged at 1800 IST if it starts or after two hours of non red flag Interrupts

walshb · 29-08-2021 02:31PM

Each delayed start counts for a lap it seems!!

ctrl-alt-delete · 29-08-2021 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819134#Comment_117819134

It gets more confusing/interesting...

So as it is we are down to 39 laps - not going to ask how many laps Sergio would be behind haha

KevRossi · 29-08-2021 02:33PM

Russell is saying race should be started, even if it means a couple of laps behind a safety car as then half points could be awarded.

Burkie1203 · 29-08-2021 02:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819140#Comment_117819140

Still 1 because those delayed starts count

flazio · 29-08-2021 02:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819125#Comment_117819125

Was reduced to 3 at the start of this year.

Burkie1203 · 29-08-2021 02:35PM

Max gets 12.5

Lewis gets 7.5

Gap closes.

ctrl-alt-delete · 29-08-2021 02:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819145#Comment_117819145

Ah i know I just meant it in terms of confusion - as Sky are still questioning it. Brundle is even questioning the 39 lap line.

I am going off your earlier message saying he will be allowed unlap himself -of the one we think he is down.

His car is 99% ready as is.

H3llR4iser · 29-08-2021 02:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819125#Comment_117819125

The time has actually been reduced to 3 hours for 2021, a frankly silly decision that is 100% gonna bite back today. I never got the 4 hours "total" either (they brought it up after the 2011 Canadian Grand Prix), but 3 hours is a REALLY short time in case of weather issues and/or possible issues at the track.

Itssoeasy · 29-08-2021 02:37PM

The red bull crew have pulled it off and have Perez’s car fixed.

Captain_Crash · 29-08-2021 02:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819115#Comment_117819115

My understanding is that there is a 4 hour window to run the race, which as the race has started isn’t relevant anymore because once you start you have a max of 3 hours to finish the race with 2 hours actual racing (so allowing for up to an hour of red flag time).

But as we’ve now had over an hour under a red flag, the race will be timed as it’s not possible to finish it with the time left?!?

ctrl-alt-delete · 29-08-2021 02:37PM

Nice touch seeing Sergio thanking all the mechanics,

Could you imagine he binned it again if they do get going?

Itssoeasy · 29-08-2021 02:40PM

It’s mad that there isn’t a consensus on how many laps we have left to go.

MadYaker · 29-08-2021 02:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819143#Comment_117819143

Well he would say that considering the position he is in.

Lawlesz · 29-08-2021 02:47PM

This confusion over race distance is ridiculous, is Masi to blame or what? The use of start procedure suspended, I interpret that as it not having started...

Always funny trying to explain to non f1 fans how unclear some rules are, even for the teams... It's like Klopp or Pep standing on the sidelines with a rule book trying to figure out how many subs they can make

Charlie-Bravo · 29-08-2021 02:47PM

There's going to be some very angry punters trackside when they paid all that money to get no race to watch. I understand safety is priority but I'd be a little annoyed if I was there.

LollipopJimmy · 29-08-2021 02:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819208#Comment_117819208

Annoyed at who though? What's the point?

Rossi IRL · 29-08-2021 02:52PM

Masi "When the light goes green the race starts"

Well why is the clock counting down then.

This is more confusing than it needs to be.

Cancel the race and bring it back in the free slot near the end of the season.

Burkie1203 · 29-08-2021 02:54PM

This is a shambles

rameire · 29-08-2021 02:55PM

Rain will stop in 45 minutes.

Thrashssacre · 29-08-2021 02:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819244#Comment_117819244

So will the race, what a waste of a Sunday.

Itssoeasy · 29-08-2021 02:57PM

F1 if nothing else will need to do some serious clarification on the rules around this situation because this has been a confusing mess.

Rossi IRL · 29-08-2021 02:57PM

Racing for a few laps or a couple of lasp behind the safety car for half points is a joke. Should be 50% race is half points and 75% race is full points.

walshb · 29-08-2021 02:57PM

They should all just have a one lap foot race and done with it!

Rossi IRL · 29-08-2021 02:58PM

Lando asleep

Only solution for this mess

29-08-2021 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819206#Comment_117819206

All the different procedures and additions and tweaks have come back to bite them on the arse. The sporting regulations are an absolute mess. They were created a long time ago and getting rid of refuelling (as one example) meant they had to change things, deducting laps here and there in certain circumstances. Having safety car restarts, formation laps under safety car, more confusion on top of confusion. And there now Brundle is saying "delayed start" refers to the orange lights rather than a rain delay. A complete mess.

Could do with taking a page out of NASCAR and IndyCar's books and have the race directors make decisions and teams follow it. Unfortunately as with another rich man's sport (Rugby Union) everyone involved is either a lawyer or thinks they are. They love all the stupid arbitrary rules that kind of overlap and can be argued over etc.

Why they changed the rules to 3 hours instead of 4 hours for this year is beyond sensible justification though.

MadYaker · 29-08-2021 02:59PM

Lando asleep with his old man on the right

Charlie-Bravo · 29-08-2021 02:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117819225#Comment_117819225

Would you not be pretty pissed off if you planned a lovely weekend away, with a chunk of cash spent, only to see your favourite race and for it not to happen? That's quite annoying.

quokula · 29-08-2021 03:00PM

Time and again the FIA just keep embarrassing themselves with convoluted and poorly defined rules that are not consistently implemented, this could really be the culmination of that.

Aside from not knowing their arse from their elbow when it comes to what a race start is, the track wasn’t overly wet, and they’d have cleared a dry line and been on intermediates within a few laps if they started. Plenty of races have started in far worse conditions. They’re supposed to be the best drivers in the world and as long as there is no aquaplaning, which it appears there wasn’t, then they should be able to drive to the conditions. If visibility is poor then stay further back or out of the trail of the car in front.

It seems like F1 shouldn’t bother lugging wet tyres from circuit to circuit as they never actually drive when the weather is suitable for them.

F1 2021 Round 12: Belgian Grand Prix

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