New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Regardless of the brand of IPA or IPA substitute involved it is a childish gimmick and clearly the target audience of "man propped on barstool" isn't falling for it going by viewing numbers

That target audience is probably in an actual pub during the show.

I reeeeeaaaally dont like Candace O and don't want to sit through 15 minutes of her talking to anyone. I'm interested to hear the bit about the election you refer to though. Do you know whereabouts I'd be wanting to skip to?

This is Murdoch's view on climate change...

...which doesn't align with SKY's angle.

Anyway, although I agree what SN has reported on incidents at Calais and drownings, because I've seen them, they haven't really to date discussed it in a 'ongoing issue that needs to be addressed' kinda way. But they seem to be now. So that's my pick.

You have not said what her grift is. Tell us?

What you did say was that she made plenty of insightful remarks - can you name them?

You carry water for her by saying she started out with good intentions, that even grifters tell the truth?

That Farage pushed back on the fact that the election was stolen - he didnt - he said it was poor strategically. But she didnt come onto Farage to defend herself.

I'm not sure you even watched the video/videos you post.

So yes, given your love for the anti-woke, anti-BLM, GB News, it is not suprising to me that you see a lot of sense in what Candace Owens says. Its ok to own it.

Given that Comcast have owned Sky since 2018, why do you believe that Murdoch and his views have any input in governing their editorial stance?

He has gotten (more) rich from it though. Before that he was getting rich by being one of the M25 London elite.

They're exactly the same. Farage's concern for the working classes begins and ends with using them to push a xenophobic, populist agenda.

As has been pointed out, Europhobia is the only real niche for grifters in the UK so Farage has typecast himself as a result. Now he's reduced to whoring himself on Cameo and shilling culture war drivel and bigotry on GB News.

I just read the headline and thought Yep, Yep and Yep to all 3. I must be an "eco-zealot Marxist"

I'd describe myself as a Capitalist who believes that Capitalism needs a rework if it is to survive. These shrill accusations from Neil would have meant something a few decades ago when Capitalism was bringing big benefits to enough people. Now, it's working for fewer and fewer so all these hysterics do is demonstrate what a weak position their corporatist ideology is in. They're not setting themselves up for the future as that would mean less unearned wealth for their 1% pals so we get this tripe.

Not a fan but I did like this from Sacha Baron Coen:

It's gas.

I've never heard "Marxist" or "Communist" mentioned so much as I have in the last 5 years or so.

I think the problem is that a lot of people have attributed various international problems to capitalism and decided, accordingly that capitalism must go. Rather than offer strong or even logical arguments, conservatives have resorted to histrionics rather than adapt when it comes to issues like climate change and wealth inequality.

Ironically, as the man who's waving the flag for it here, I'm living in a city in which there's no realistic chance I'll ever own a stake in bouncing from contract to contract. Not a bad existence but it's wanting somewhat in terms of long term prospects.

As for the centre holding, that stopped being the case some time ago. Social democracy has been battered and beaten all across Europe with only proportional systems preserving its existence at all in countries where this exists. One need only look at the current UK and its government to see the alternative.

Speaking of which, Sturgeon and the SNP have done a marvellous job of crafting a positive brand for independence. They're willing to compromise on areas like the monarchy and the currency while standing firm on issues like Faslane. Neil to me is a perfect symbol of the intellectual rot that has infected modern conservatism. When once you'd expect sound, reality-based arguments we now see the shrill drivel I linked to above because they simply have nothing else.