Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

The self report setup is a bit of a nonsense though. Open to serious abuse, the VAERS thing for example.

Side effects may include turning into the Hulk..

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/may/11/bill-zedler/bill-zedler-insists-program-doesnt-collect-wide-ra/

VAERS is reported only by medical practitioners

Interesting that the EU commission are warning member states not to give a booster shot.

The EMA has not approved it and the emergency licence does not cover booster shots.

In a press release today any EU member that gives booster shot will be libel as well as the manufacturer if side effects are found to linked to a booster shot.

@floorpie The Moderna booster study you referenced does show that only very mild adverse grade one and grade two , mild pain in arm , headache , aches and pains, fatigue , with fever only present in one booster but not in the one specifically tailored .

No grade 3 or 4 adverse events reported .

Boosters are half the normal vaccine dose/ generally reduced so less likely to generate the strong responses some have had with the main vaccination.

Just enough to tickle the body's own response into action.

Again I would doubt that boosters will be widely rolled out at this stage .

It will be for those who really need them .

That's if authorised.

What has that got to do with VAERs?

Of course there are very very rare instances of side effects with a vaccine...I don't think anyone is denying that.

The article states it clearly 417 clots recorded out of 50 million. So by my awful maths 0.0000083%....so an absolutely tiny number.

I would look at the number of people proportionally who are in hospital who are not vaccinated versus those who are.

Plenty of data on that, below is NI. Other ones in US or France.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/80-of-people-under-60-in-hospital-with-covid-19-in-north-not-vaccinated-1.4643931

Seamus is right imo, let's see what coroner report says for that case in Ireland. The way that death and others like the lady from wexford have been used by the anti Vax people in this country is an absolute disgrace. Scumbags like Ben Gilroy broadcasting outside their funerals!

I am not spinning anything, I literally said there is a tiny tiny risk. But it is the same with any vaccine or medicine. There is a much higher risk of blood clots with the pill for example (0.3-1 percent over 10 years seemingly). You also can in no way say she would be alive today without the vaccine. She could have been someone who covid hit extremely hard and killed.

You're off by a factor of 100, it's 0.000834%. Now add up all of the adverse outcomes, and compare the likelihood of those outcomes against different demographic's likelihood of 1) being infected by sars-cov-2, 2) having an adverse outcome from COVID-19.

In my defence I did say I was terrible at maths. I cant get that one right so I would prefer you do the adding up...the vast majority of adverse reactions have been extremely mild I would say?

I would also say there is a good chance of being infected at some stage given the case numbers...plus I know lots of people unfortunately who have been severely hit by covid (30s) all extremely fit and healthy beforehand. I also previously had pneumonia. I know of no one who has had a severe reaction to the vaccine (flu like symptoms being max).

I will happily take my chances with the jab, and I have. You can make your own choice obviously.

Who said he needed protection from infection?

(The quote function on this forum is pathetic)

1918 positive swabs, 8.55% positivity on 22,426 tests.

7 day test positivity is 9.4%. - Thursday, August 26th 2021

Not good, not terrible

1,866 new cases, 331 in hospital, up 8 and 61 in ICU, up 5.

Here's a chart of ICU occupancy. Peaked at 221 on Jan 24 2021.

At what point do the HSE/NPHET sh!t the bed again? 100?

(apologies for tiny size! stupid new boards)

They don't sound like they want to make any comment now apart from get vaccinated and wait till October. The peak is almost upon us they say so it may not even get to 100. If you look at the daily ins and outs it's all very fluid and one day could give us 5 out of ICU and 3 in and vice versa.