Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)

Evade · 16-08-2021 09:10AM

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Even from the opening shot with the Galor class and the Cardassian phasers and door controls were spot on too.

Rawr · 16-08-2021 09:38AM

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Not the mention the nods to the Dominion in there too. Everything, damn near everything was well considered.

I also kind of enjoyed them conflating the Starfleet chevron with the Nike symbol. It's on the sweatbands, and even the soles of their shoes,

odyssey06 · 16-08-2021 07:34PM

Mike MacMahon also wrote the short Trek episode 'Escape Artist' which I thought was v good... has a similar vibe to Lower Decks

Greyjoy · 19-08-2021 10:20AM

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I felt like the first season dialed back that frenetic style a bit as the series progressed and it became a much better show. They could have balanced the A/B stories better in this episode - instead of Tendi & Rutherford show what's happening with Boimler aboard the Titan. Maybe even reverse expectations by not having the Titan be an all-action, all-danger commission for Boimler.

pixelburp · 19-08-2021 10:44AM

I think the sooner Boimler gets off the Titan the better; Season 1 worked better when he and Mariner were sparking off each other. 'Cos they're a clear, definitive Odd Couple arrangement so without Boimler Mariner didn't work for me. While the other two just aren't interesting enough to hold the group together.

CastorTroy · 19-08-2021 11:33AM

Ah, such a Boimler thing to do.

Oh, and such gratuitous nudity

Slydice · 19-08-2021 09:21PM

2: That was just an all round enjoyable episode. My nostalgia getting hit on overload. Jokes, action, Star Trek and more!

That was hilarious that Rutherford had the clone bet😄

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117775616#Comment_117775616

I was totally thinking about Starship Troopers!

breezy1985 · 20-08-2021 08:55AM

A great episode for the Easter eggs but I found it a bit low on laughs again. Love how they solved Boimler on the Titan and much better than my guess that he was just gonna chicken out.

My big takeaway was that a lot of the "lessons" in the episode were a direct kick in Discos groin. Boimlers speech about why he loves Starfleet (Trek), what he hated about Titan and Mariners plot about always wanting to be in charge and never letting her crew members take the lead

McGiver · 20-08-2021 09:11AM

Binge watched the whole S01 + S02E1. Had a several serious laughs. Great Trek show and very canonical, I'd say.

One has to know a lot of the canon to appreciate many of the jokes.

AMKC · 20-08-2021 09:37AM

That was another great episode. Loved all the references to past Star Trek episodes and Villians.

I also loved how they took the micky out of Discovery.

I thought the Titan looked great too and loved how they solved the Boimler problem lol. It will be interesting next time we see the Titan.

I loved the new characther to the Taimerian.

Evade · 20-08-2021 01:14PM

I see Lower Decks is continuing the great Star Trek Tradition of ranks being almost irrelevant. The new chief of security is a lieutenant junior grade, the officer at the station when he walked onto the bridge was a full lieutenant.

I think I'll have to go over the collections a few times it was so packed with references.

breezy1985 · 20-08-2021 01:25PM

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Not my work but here is a good breakdown of the collection

Mars Perseverance rover

Betazoid gift box

Child's sculpture of Picard’s head

Ktarian game headset

Baseball and bat

M-113 creature (salt vampire)

Trombone

Possible statue of Apollo?

Khan’s Starfleet delta insignia necklace

Terran Empire flag

Various bladed weapons (bat’leth, mek’leth, kar’takin, lirpa, ushaan-tor, Klingon sword, rapier)

SS Valiant disaster recorder

Picard’s attempted still life painting (reverse image)

Possible parody of the Doctor’s painting of a reclining Seven of Nine

Kadis-kot board

Various animals (whale, shark, rhino)

Kurlan naiskos

Cases of Chateau Picard

Trident scanner

Filter mask

Possible Horta egg?

Odo-like bucket

Poker visor

Torpedo casing

TOS red-shirt and skirt uniform (Uhura's?)

Kataan probe

Data’s Masaka mask

Data’s painting of Spot

Various skeletons (Giant Spock, Abraham Lincoln, Excalbian)

Ronin-like candle

PogoRach · 20-08-2021 07:14PM

Yep, did not predict that Boimler resolve... but it was perfect.

The shade thrown at Discovery was brilliantly done.

breezy1985 · 20-08-2021 07:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117782461#Comment_117782461

Brave too considering Kurtzmann is executive for all new Trek

PogoRach · 20-08-2021 07:56PM

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In this scenario, all that "executive" means is he gets a pay cheque and IMDB credit, not a chance Kurtzman actually watches or pays any sort of attention to Lower Decks... 😂

Stark · 20-08-2021 08:54PM

I missed the Discovery shade, what point in the show was it?

TheValeyard · 20-08-2021 08:56PM

Boiler resolution was brilliant

Very good episode again!!

It genuinely is proper Trek just with added humour and madness.

PogoRach · 20-08-2021 09:43PM

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Well they never directly name Discovery, but the majority of the B-plot with Boimler on the Titan and what it means to him to really be Starfleet was all very much a sly dig at Discovery (and Picard).

Evade · 20-08-2021 09:53PM

I would have preferred if the Boimler resolution was left to the next episode with the Cerritos doing a bit of second contgact and finding him and connecting the set up dots from the last episode.

Stark · 20-08-2021 10:08PM

Hopefully there'll be more scenes with William Boimler and the Titan. It felt so amazing seeing Commander Riker again. Frake's "Picard" appearances just felt cheap and nasty, especially with the copy pasta ship. Despite being a cartoon, William Riker of the Titan felt real.

Cookie_Monster · 21-08-2021 01:21AM

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Was it not a dig at the Titon books?

Also I love how gung-ho happy Riker is, you can tell Frakes is having a great time doing it

pixelburp · 21-08-2021 09:03AM

Much better episode than last week's, and good the team is back to its proper equilibrium. The character moments were nice though, the little lessons feel so much more effortless. It's maddening how much better this show deals with the dissonance between the exploratory ideals of Starfleet and the action adventures therein.

As to the "shade"? Eh, maybe. I could see how it might be a dig at the Kurtzman shows but it was gentle and generalised enough. Be nice if some pennies dropped in those other production teams but I doubt it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117782592#Comment_117782592

In TV circles I believe it's the opposite of film, in that the executive producer roles are more hands on than the producer ones.

breezy1985 · 21-08-2021 10:11AM

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If it's about Titan then it is a very niche in joke even by Lads standards.

I'm definitely going with the Discovery angle cause its more fun

21-08-2021 10:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784012#Comment_117784012

Yeah. When coupled with Mariner being called out for taking charge all the time, doing overly risky "plans", and not giving her crew-mates any scenario to propose more efficient/safe solutions.

Anyone think that the cast aside ops crew member will come back to haunt them?

bilbot79 · 21-08-2021 10:49AM

Where can I watch this?

Sparko · 21-08-2021 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784128#Comment_117784128

It's on Amazon Prime, every Friday.

PogoRach · 21-08-2021 12:52PM

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Nah, not necessarily, really depends on how many people are listed as Producer and which of them is also the Showrunner (Mike McMahan in this case - its his baby). Lower Decks has 6 producers, and having spent years working in the television industry myself, I'd wager Kurtzman has sweet feck all to do with this and is Executive Producer in name only. His production company has the rights to the franchise, so he might call a meeting every now and again with the hands on producers to hear them say things are ticking over well, but it'd be essentially the equivalent of Jeff Bezos rocking up to an Amazon warehouse and asking the foreman in passing if things were well, would surprise me if Kurtzman even bothered watching it.