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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    It does say quite a bit about his character, and also a lot about the lack of character of those that choose to apply those labels you mention to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Suppose he's the proxy for how people see mayo football in general,. including those within the country.

    Lived in Tipperary many years ago and every time they lost a game John leahy was the man that got dogs abuse. Pretty sure he won two or three all Ireland's with them and was a fine hurler.

    He been part of the mayo senior football setup since 2009 and has been one of the few that been ever present from pathetic defeats to Sligo and Longford to the teams which contested for all Ireland glory on 5 previous occasions and now a 6th

    Like conor Mortimer and Ciaran McDonald's, he divides opinion and as had been mentioned, narrative is defined by winners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    This is it. He is the most profile player we have, who most agrees is coming to the end of his IC career as he is 31. He still has a role to play and I would think the bad press he is currently getting will focus the head a bit. As long as he works as hard as the rest of the players and abides by the same rules then I can't see Horan having any issue. I think there was more of an issue when Rochford was in as it was clear that everything was not quite right.

    However, there is a difference between Horan and Rochford, as Horan has form and the players know this. He will not take BS and will sideline anyone he wants to. There is no "i" in Horan's team and this has always been the case. This is probably his greatest strength.

    I expect AOS to come back strong as this could be his last chance!! He has got his warning by been subbed so this has to be clear to him now. We had him down at our club giving underage medals two years ago and he came across really well. I really hope he plays out of his skin the next day and gets his medal. He deserves it and he needs to do this for himself before he goes, otherwise stuff of this nature will always be thrown at him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    I think we’ve had that, with some subtlety mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,051 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    My bad!!! Not sure how I convinced myself it was Canning!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    The notion that being substituted is the "kick up the hole he needed" or that it will motivate him is bs. If anything AOS tries too hard and cares too much. He's missing some elements that would make him the complete player but desire and work rate are not what he lacks. This thing about his ego needing checking is bs too. What other top midfielder/forward would happily go fullback against one of the greatest ever full forwards (and do a great job) without a question? He's not a great scorer but he's almost everything else and has been used as such. Maybe now we have a more rounded team that doesn't require him to do multiple specialist tasks. AOS owes Mayo nothing to put it mildly and I hope he gets what he deserves on Sept 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    You seem to have misunderstood the meaning of my statements so.

    Big Games - Finals - Aido been very poor. Maybe you can find an exception but the norm has been second rate Aido.


    Compare that to Keegan who has more often than not stood and been counted when needed most. Either way just my opinion, no need for the douche comment to my original post, then again this is boards so not really a shock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Always feel he needs to add more aggression to his game. As people have stated, takes a lot for him to get a free. Would like to see him get the retaliation in first and be delivering the big hits on players with majority of them on the edge. This is what keeps good teams on top. Playing to the edge and beyond when opportunity is there. That's what Keegan does.

    Probably not in his nature but 12 years of being targeted should make a man reassess his thoughts on what's acceptable to help get over the line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭dobman88


    The problem with that is in always feel refs blow up for soft frees against him. It's the curse of the big man, he can't get a free for love nor money and has the smallest transgression go against him. Seems to be a case of the ref thinking, well you're big enough to handle it. It's very frustrating watching so it must be hugely frustrating for him playing.

    And if he got in first like you suggest, I'm 100% certain he would be sent to the line fairly quickly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Jaysus I don’t know. Aido was involved in 8 of our first 9 scores in the 2017 final. I get quite frustrated at how people only measure a contribution to a game in terms of how much an individual has scored themselves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭HBC08


    "Aido has let the county down in every big game for years"

    That was word for word what you said,there is no misunderstanding there.

    It's wrong and incorrect,numerous examples were given by me and other posters.No amount of backtracking makes your statement correct.

    If you meant Aido hasn't stood out against Dublin then that's fair enough,that happens to be mostly true but that's not what you said.

    I dont really want to be getting into internet arguments but I'll defend Mayo players to the last (I'll criticise them aswell) I shouldn't really have to do that with fellow Mayo fans so I'll just leave it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Seems Horan isn't ruling out mcloughlin for the final, with Harrison coming on the last day and hession making a big impact as a sub, it really increase the options available in the final. Flynn be another thinking he could be in line to start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭naughto


    Cant see flynn starting.

    Hession was unreal when he was let off his pace is unreal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Horan just trying to keep everyone guessing. Didn't release the team playing Dublin until midday on Saturday - hoping everyone would think Mullin was playing despite the quad injury. Now he's saying there's no guarantee Mullin will be back for the final!


    No chance Eoghan McLaughlin will play the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    Have had that operation myself and there’s really no chance of Eoin playing unfortunately. He will be very tired, weak and hungry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Knowing that your position is up for grabs is a serious motivational aspect to any team. It is a great strength to have in a team that every player is fighting for a position. This is what every manager wants but not alot can afford this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Any posters binging on the auld podcasts?

    Like a staple diet since Saturday.

    Mayo News as per normal,not as good as it used to be.OTB and most especially The GAA hour is very good.Love Brendan Devenney.Great analyst and a bit of a gra for us.Backed us even if it was more heart than head.Johnny Doyle is pretty sound out too.

    Andy and Paddy is an enjoyable listen but I speak heresy.The podcast is nearly too Mayo and Dublin centric and most annoyingly it borders on a love in between the lads.Agree on everything...

    Contrast that with my brief listen of the Second Captains World Service.

    Oisin and Paul Flynn going at it,it was explosive.

    Apparently it's been like this since the get go with this duo.

    I've only watched the match back 3 times thus far.

    Trying to put out the feelers for the golden ticket.Improbable any tickets will go on general sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Tis true.


    I remember well all the ire that used to be directed at the great John Leahy.


    Certain players in every county are like lightning rods for adverse commentary/abuse irrespective of what they do.


    Quite unfairly Aidan fits into that category.Nobody minds constructive criticism of a player's performance but it's all the other nonsense.Oft smacks of pure jealousy/good old fashioned Irish begrudgery.


    I can't think of a less egocentric individual.


    As many have said the narrative is written by the victorious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭muddle84


    The second captains podcast is the best so far imo. I think Óisín is one of the best analysts around at the moment. Calls it as he sees it!


    Have any of you checked out the clips on @pauliceref ??? Brilliant resource for closer look for individual performances



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    I can't help but feel like wheeling out guys like Paul Flynn to discuss the John Small incident is a complete waste of time. They have spent years in the Dublin camp building an us vs them mentality. The chance that any of them would offer a neutral opinion and condemn one of their own is pretty remote. John Small could have pulled a knuckle duster from his waistband and Paul Flynn would say "it's a physical game".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    All final tickets hardly ever go on general sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Sound I know they never go on general sale most especially in football finals.Just thought in this Covid 19 era who knows.I certainly did think any would go on general sale for the semi final.

    I'd had imagined they'd be snapped up by the clubs with no general sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    The allocation mayo are getting for the club's for the final is allegedly lower than the semi final despite the higher attendance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭muddle84


    That makes sense though as every other club outside the two competing teams didn't have to be accommodated in the semi final!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    It does illustrate a crazy system though. This idea of distributing the tickets around the country is ridiculous, to the detriment of fans from the counties potentially losing out. I'm originally from Mayo but living in Dublin. I played in the Mayo league and championship until into my '30s. But now I play GAA in Dublin, and train the local kids in the club. I love following the Mayo seniors, and especially for the past 10 years has been special and great times in Croke Park and across the country. But when push comes to shove, I offer very little in recent years to Mayo GAA at grassroots level. Do I deserve a ticket for the final in place of a Mayo man or woman who is out on the pitches down there playing themselves or training others. The answer is no. And same to be said about people in the other counties outside of those playing on the big day. I know if I wanted to be in with a ticket for a final if Mayo were to get there, that I could purchase membership at the club in Mayo that I grew up in. But I choose not to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    There is an inherent fairness in the fact that primarily the tickets are allocated via clubs to be distributed amongst the players and volunteers as deemed appropriate.


    As a biased season ticket holder I'm of the opinion we should be next in line.Obviously not going to happen.


    But to play devil's advocate how many of said people were interested in heading up to Mac Hale Park for the Connacht semi final v Leitrim?Obviously the season tickets weren't an option.


    Yet tickets were returned.Now I am mindful of the mindset of people in the midst of the Covid 19 era.


    For the Connacht final change of venue to allow more supporters to attend,there was an outcry among some supporters that was not without some merit.


    Yet again the game failed to sell out.


    But you put your hours in as a player and are now richly contributing to the next generation of players who we will likely square up against!😀


    Like so many who've departed the homestead you've an undying passion for the green and red.Same is self evident.


    I've family in Dublin,in particular an uncle and slightly less so aunt who've never lost their gra for the green and red.


    He'd attend matches irrespective of the venue if he got a ticket.


    There are more than true lovers of Mayo football who due to circumstance and ill luck due to the Covid era will fail to get a ticket.


    I hope you get one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭flasher0030



    "But you put your hours in as a player and are now richly contributing to the next generation of players who we will likely square up against!😀"

    Ha Ha for the above comment. Had never actually thought about it like that. Last Saturday in Croke Park, was giving the death stare to anyone in blue and navy, ready to attack like a savage dog. And next Saturday when our Dubs youngsters are back training, I'll be asking them to sweat blood in the name of Dublin GAA, developing them into machines to cast aside all that comes before them in the future. I'll accept being a hypocrite in this case!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,657 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    not certain that the game was not sold out - I think the issue was that the full capacity was not used due to the selling in pods. e.g if you bought a pod of 2, then the other 3 seats in a pod of 5 would have remained unsold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    where are mayo training now with mchale park now dug up?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭naughto


    They never train on the main pitch its always the back pitch



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