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Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    The North possibly but West in not that different. Also similar climates worldwide have restictions (mask + distancing + hand sanitisation are not really 'restrictions') and haven't seen the same. And it just happens to be the same states that let the harness off the horse and slapped its arse.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    West is very different to thse south east. West is arid/Mediterranean type climate dry and hot. North is continental and south east is sub tropical, hot and humid.

    Like with like comparisons are the only fair comparison unless you take a much longer timeframe into account.

    Give it time and we will see infections rise once more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Mid west is arid etc. West cost has high humidity also. The coastal south east higher humidity but not the entire "South"(as in Dixie). They are far more comparable to west coast.

    It's beyond a stretch to say removing rules around masks etc. and not continuing a gradual re-opening hasn't had an affect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    One wonders is the increased transmissibility of Delta starting to overcome the usefulness of the lower grade masks, Japan would be an example of a country where lots of masks are worn for pollution but they wouldn’t be high protection against covid, they seem to have worked on the primary covid but they are seeing increased Delta cases. China likewise lots of low grade cloth masks but delta seems to be on the increase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    We saw in 2020 that the social distancing, lockdowns and masks were enough to entirely stop the flu.

    However, we still had tens of thousands of Covid cases.

    So Covid is therefore much more contagious than flu.

    And Delta is apparently more contagious again (but less deadly - as is the case with all new viruses over time).

    This virus had been in every home in the country by the summer of 2020 in some shape or form.

    Why has there been no study of antibody levels in the community?

    Or is it a case that they just bought too many vaccines, and have to use them all before they expire?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    were seeing fewer deaths because of the vaccines. Look to countries with low vaccination rates and death rates are still high. We have vulnerable people covered mostly and that is paying off in lower severe illness and death rates.

    The moral quandary now is do we start with booster shots or do we help poor countries who have low vaccination rates and high death tolls. I know healthcare workers are 8 months vaccinated and many may have lost significant protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A good few deaths each day in Northern Ireland, why is that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,383 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Their is going to be a halt called by the ecb/bond markets in the not so distant future on Pascals overdraft, the irish goverment wont have the price of a kit-kat let alone playing mother Theresa to "poorer countries"



  • Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    An incidence rate 3 times higher than ours because its been fully open with no vaccinated only indoor restrictions in pubs

    The higher the incidence,the more you'll see of the 10% or so who vaccines don't work as well on get into trouble and the more you'll see of the unvaccinated in trouble

    Stats at work basically

    Also the north have had a disproportionate usage of AstraZeneca versus the Republic, and its known not to perform as well against delta



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Again; how does that relate to my post(s)?

    Take a look at Tennessee; in April the Governor (Republican of course) opened up too soon. He's now backtracking and Tennessee has the lowest vaccination rate ( or one of the lowest) and cases spiking again. It's now so bad all of children's hospitals are on track to overflow by the end of next week. All of them.

    In Texas an 11 month old had to be medevac'd to another hospital 200 miles from Houston as all others were full.

    It's zero to do with "climate". Its the unfortunate stupidity that the Americans have allowed this to be politicised and unfettered opening up has caused this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    My milking machine technician is in a bad way since taking the vaccine and Ia relation of mine got a stroke soon after but I suppose they were only coincidental.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Both vaccinated here, eldest has had her first, all no bother really.


    Youngest is 13, portal for 12-15yo opens this week. Based on the research we’ve done the safety for this age group is based on just 2000 vaccinated kids, quite a small cohort. It’s a hard decision, she’s prone to bits of allergic reactions which worries us a bit, but equally when younger she had some serious chest infections and covid might be a massive risk for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    If you dont get her vaccinated, does that then mean you're an anti vaxxer?

    The rest of us supposedly are who haven't signed up yet...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Government don't care if they break the country, They'reonly in for a short time,they'll probably go with paying for other countries vaccines.

    But they should be boosting immunity here and not allow the hospitals to be destroyed again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Local pub and restaurant closed again due to a positive case in one of their workers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    We'll just have to tough it out now, looks like this is thee way it's gonna be......How long are they closing for ? a local business was only closed a couple days as most staff were vaccinated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,215 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Not sure. It's a big place. Former defence minister's family run it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    That’s some mega bitch ass trolling just there.

    sadly this current software doesn’t allow me avoid your posts any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Young lad here is 14 and have no notion of getting him vaccinated until its absolutely unavoidable .Left my own for a good bit and was really just a case of getting it to get it over and done with in case proof was needed for doing stuff .Think that drove the uptake with those in their 20's over the last while .Nephews and niece got their's so as to be able to go on holidays in the next while and to go out to socialise wherever you might be asked for the proof of vaccination.None of them were in the least interested in vaccination before this became apparent .

    Reading through the posts on here I wonder if I live here at all. No business that I know has closed due to covid with the staff .At this stage things seem to be getting back to normal in the sense that its just people pulling on a mask when heading in to the shop/bank etc .

    Other than that think the meeting up/social distancing etc seems to have gone out the window totally



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Or would it make you a conspiracy theorist if you question niacs assessment that the benefits of 5g will outweigh whatever risks for her?

    That's the sort of sh1t all of us perfectly rational people who have decided for one reason or another that the vaccine isnt for us at this point in time have been compared with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Did return to work paperwork earlier with an employee who was off with covid, we’ve had a few.

    the big thing they found was the sense that they felt they were being treated like they were dirty and had done something wrong, like criminals. Found it very hard that the whole town was talking about them.

    we can’t be doing that, maybe covid will be around for a while, who knows, but we need to work it into our daily lives knowing that vaccines will prevent most serious illness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,397 ✭✭✭✭Esel
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,301 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Keeps showing they are quoting my posts though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Will be interesting to see the governments roadmap to normality at the end of the month.

    Very hard to see what it might look like and unless we start to abandon the logic that has us here, I can't see a way out.

    As we head into winter cases will stay high, maybe a new variant or two. We will start to see the majority of people ending up in hospital are vaccinated. How they will model that could go either way, assume a much lower hospitalisation rate still applies or else panic and lockdowns.

    How do we ultimately get to where the uk is without just throwing caution to the wind? There's been such a big deal made by government that we won't do anything similar to them but yet a few more percentage points of the population being vaccinated are going to make a negligible difference. We either have years more of boosters and restrictions ahead of us or we'll ultimately just have to follow the uk and get on with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Should have just got on with it from the start. Couldn't have killed much more if they tried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    UK killed double the number per 1000000 population more than here.

    I was away yesterday and it was good to be able to use the covid vaccination cert in two places to eat indoors out of the rain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,383 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Will be fascinating given Irelands huge uptake by its adult population, when the wheels come of the wagon, just how long tony and co will presist with the vaccination solution before going the route as outlined above, its beyond the pale the author didnt dare mention the i word solution out of fear of the article been pulled down as misinformation by google/facebook/twitter...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    No more that the flu, it doesn't make any difference how many are getting IT provided it doesn't overwhelm the hospitals



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