Climate Change is Normal and Welcome in My Opinion

Your view on Australia's contribution to global emissions:

My view on Australia's contribution to global emissions:

2018 Rank in Global emissions: 16th

SOURCE: https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions

Note: these are from 2018. My point is its easy to use stats to justify a position.

So what is more important:

Output per capita or total emissions output.

Im in the latter camp.

If you are in the latter then I'm sure you'll agree there's no need for us in Ireland to do a whole pile. We contribute a tiny negligible amount on a global scale - even if we all disappeared in the morning and emitted not one more gram of CO2 or Methane it would have precisely zero global impact. So we're either all in this together or we just site back and finger wag at the US and China?

Population of England in the 11th century approx 1.7m

Population of England today approx 56m

Just saying....

According to your chart the EU has a much smaller emissions contribution than the US, China, Russia, India etc. In any case what we do in Ireland is absolutely irrelevant on a global scale. I have not seen any concrete ideas of what we need to do here anyway from anyone. Just an awful lot of finger wagging and hand wringing. Our government's ideas appear to be little more than raising the Carbon tax annually.

The Earths climate has always been changing.

Those of you who post charts showing temperature anomaly for the last 100 years is so incredibly deceitful - zoom out and look at the trend over 100k or more years and you'll see the earths mean surface temperature goes through predictable cycles. We are nearing the peak of one right now (in relative terms).

There are real problems we need to address - but carbon emissions are not that problem. Plastic pollution, habitat loss, declining fish numbers and the death of insect pollinators - these are the big problems that genuinely put us at risk. Microplastics are found in every waterway, and in most animal feeds (and fish). You are no doubt consuming them right now, and will consume more and more as more plastic waste is made and dumped in waterways.

Overuse of fertilisers and pesticides kills bees, flies, and all other sorts of insects that are so important for food chains and pollination. If this keeps up we will struggle to pollinate plants and food shortages will not be long coming.

Soil qualities have never been worse due to intensive over farming practices.

Fish stocks are being decimated due to megatrawlers.

These are the issues you should be bringing up to your representatives, because these are the issues that put all of humanities future at risk. Carbon emissions are a red herring - to those worried about man made climate change warming the planet - look at past temperature records (100k+ year span). The earth has always gone through ice ages and warm spells, no amount of mankind activity will change that. Trying to reverse the earths cycles is like trying to push back the tide. Trying to adapt to the changing climate, and building resilient nature and ecosystems should be our goal, not strip mining to build electric cars or digging up acres of land to put down nothing but solar panels. Or building wind farms on bogs and causing fish kills from mudslides.

The other thing to be aware of is that the majority of earths carbon emissions are emitted by 10 corporations - so why not put pressure on them instead of joe soap the farmer with a herd of 100 cows.

Looking forward to the preaching from Obama and his birthday party guests who flew in on private jets about what the little people need to give up to avert disaster.

until the big guys start showing that they are making sacrifices themselves most people will feel able to ignore this. I’m not expecting leadership to be shown on this issue from western political elites therefore we are fucked

So if the Greens are hated so much for being virtue signallers, who needs to push the changes required for climate change? FF or FG?

Maybe people who've never driven cars or buy new clothes or eat meat? They'd be called a cult of freaks.

Everyone is a hypocrite who wants change, just by being part of modern society, unfortunately.

It will be up to centrist parties, because that's where people are. Very few people don't doubt climate change, but they won't trust extremists. It's the same with most things, people don't like partition but didn't support the IRA, they would like more equality but won't turn Communist.

Building consensus is a very important step, but the Greens can't do it, far too preachy. I am optimistic that Ireland is going in the right direction, the wind energy development off the west coast will be a great step forward.

Why Arent we in strict lockdowns like covid if it’s that serious?

Climate change is practically impossible to tackle.

If we do what's nesscessary to slash emissions it will lead to massive job losses and huge hardships on ordinary working class people.

Dairy farming and farming in general would suffer hugely

Manufacturing of cars phones planes ect would need to be drastically reduced leading to worldwide joblessness and recessions and extreme hardship.

It's an impossible proposition.

Very hard to see how it's going to be solved.

Your wrong never did I say I was climate denier. My question is it happening faster then they think