Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

100%.

It's a weird paradox that the people who complain loudest about Covid restrictions are also the ones who complain most about the things that will prevent further restrictions.

Like, being anti-vaccine and being anti-lockdown should be mutually exclusive - but the opposite seems to be the case.

Imagine constantly needing a paper of value to get into an establishment or venue.... and in order to get food and drink, and groceries, and electricity and heating and a home and to be a legal citizen of a country, and you had to keep working for most of your life in order to attain of such paper,... what a horrible Orwellian nightmare.... Oh wait it's just capitalism!!! $$$

They can say its not policy all they want but they've now implemented them but then it also surely falls into the category of nphet dictating policy. We keep hearing the government are in control and make the decisions but it appears nphet wouldn't allow them open indoor dining without the certs.

Seems to be true. For about 6 months. Not so much after that.

were you not leaving boards in a previous post?

It's still not as you claim, goalpost moving. On public health they defer to NPHET and nobody has claimed they are in control of that narrative, they haven't been since last Christmas. Lots of things to blame them for but not changing the rules that NPHET advised. In due course there will be a review of NPHET and their part in all of this. That is mostly good but there are elements of the dynamic which require scrutiny.

How do you know this so definitively?

Great to read that report albeit too late now

Many posters were on the ball when the called out the charade 12 months ago

Heard Sarah Hamill on newstalk earlier. She referred to the sketchy reporting of deaths and the use of the media to ensure compliance.

When children’s shoe shops were forced to close for months (and it took a great struggle to reopen them) in the name of public health, was when the penny should of dropped for everyone

unfortunately some will never see the light

None of that is any excuse for a lack of ambition or any cohesive plan to reopen.

Seriously - there is no plan, no messaging, no goal coming from those in charge of our pandemic response. Just "hold firm" and "the next 2 weeks are crucial".

Is this what the new normal entails? Living the rest of our life week to week with no idea what comes next?

Edit: Also the UK looked at the data and said OK, we can open up without NHS being overrun. Lets do it. Scotland have planned for the same in the coming weeks. Why cant Ireland, with higher vaccination rates, plan for the same?

Yes i’m leaving soon as my life is now getting back to normal so i have lost the desire to read the crap posted on these threads.

I can do all the things i couldn’t do last year. I can eat in a restaurant, i can get p****d inside a pub if i wish ( however i’m not a big pub goer) also i have few upcoming trips internationally. Life couldn’t be better.

If I dont see a clear roadmap OUT of this and transparent key metrics I'm not taking another fkn thing.

I stayed at home, I followed the restrictions, I wear the bloody mask and got the fkn vaccine shots. Even though I didnt believe half of what I was told and I wasn't afraid a bit of the virus. I did it to do my thing knowing it was our only hope out of this. And I've had enough of this bull now.

Unless I see hard metrics put in front of me I'm not supporting another damn thing. Including walking around with that stupid cert.

I suppose a total anomaly in the data deserves a whole article.

Sure, but lots of unknowns about a lot of things. The key point is that the risk of death in a non-vulnerable 40 year old from covid is very small, even the risk of being hospitalised is small. This is what the data shows. Needing an article to emotionally manipulate people says it all about whether they should in fact worry about covid if young and healthy. It is just trying to stir fear and confusion. It's ridiculous but disturbing and dismaying that people go for this.

There was some twitter discussion about the chap who died - a twitter thread from his sister apparently (retweeted by Piers Morgan), who happened to mention as an aside that the chap had asthma. If it's true, then he wasn't exactly non-vulnerable, even if fit as a flea and if his asthma was under control.

Still steady if creeping up a bit in hospital. 226 people in hospital, 38 in ICU in NI as a comparison.