Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

So much uncertainty, can't plan anything. We've no idea of what the exit strategy is, it was supposed to be vaccines but here we are, with them getting excited about small numbers in hospital again.

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But if the business is ignoring regs on table service and distancing then isn't it a reasonable concern that they're also not properly checking vaccination status?

It's funny. If I listen to the doom mongers on boards then I get the impression we're all going into lockdown again. If I listen to the optimists on RTE, specifically the Brendan O'Connor show with the upbeat Anthony Staines as one of his guests, then we're very much near the end of this thing. How the turns have tabled.

Fair point. Still wouldn't affect my thinking on matters though because that's a matter for them. I'm fully vaccinated. Which is supposed to mean a high level of protection. And that's a high level of protection in all cases. Not just the same socially distant mask wearing situations that were deemed acceptable last year pre vaccine but also more crowded situations this year post vaccine.

I'm not belittling vaccine hesitancy far from it, where have I questioned what parents decide to do for their kids ? quite frankly that's nothing to do with your initial statement, you were asked you back up a statement you made, you can't back it up. It's a very simple request.

It's also not being rude, your just being asked as many other posters have before by other posters to provide a source for you claim, your unable to do so. It's as simple as that. Nothing more nothing less.

No I won't ignore because if you claim something without any shred of evidence behind it your going to be called out by someone on here, whoever it may be. Can you provide anything at all to back up this sentence that you posted ? You can't because there's no basis to the claim.

"Many of those young people queuing up have already had covid so taking a vaccine could harm them greatly."

I'll leave it there though because we're going around and around & you've no intention of backing up your view point with anything at all to back up the claim.

My point was about a poster feeling unsafe because they couldnt know who was being let into the pub - the response to that being that if you feel unsafe around unvaccinated people, you should also feel unsafe around vaccinated people - as either can contract and spread the virus. Legislative aspect is a whole other kettle of fish.

Vaccines works to protect you - if you still feel unsafe you shouldnt go out full stop, because segregated venues will not be enough to keep you from the virus.

Seeing as your referring to me, I've not belittled anyone in response to that poster. Everyone can make their own mind up, parents make their decisions for their kids that aren't at the age of medical consent.

However, none of that is anything to do with the initial comment I was replying to and I think you know that. For some reason the replies to me went off on that tangent, why ? I don't know as I never referenced it(hesitancy). Mine was simply back up a statement with something, nothing more nothing less, very straightforward and reasonable request which they've no intention to give a straight answer to

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Ah right, which poster was that?

I know someone who had a celebration for their child's would have been communion day.

On the other hand, at some stage we'll have to start moving away from the idea that restricting the virus in itself leads to some form of long-term gain and an ultimate lifting of restrictions.

It is probably fairly agreed at this stage that we're not going to eradicate the virus; it will always be there in some form in some part of the world. Therefore there is only one way to lift restrictions and get back to normal: immunity (either naturally acquired or through vaccines). There is no correlation between the current openness of countries and the extent to which they locked down in the past.

Once a reasonable degree of immunity and protection has been achieved, then a public education programme needs to be instituted to get people over their anxiety and back into the world.

Jaysus you sound like Holohan there after his infamous tweet about people out enjoying themselves.

This is no surprise it was always going to happen. Publicans have never been known to be the most law abiding group so it doesn't come as any surprise that this is happening especially after being closed for the guts of 15 months.