Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

retalivity · 06-07-2021 05:29PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

I dont think he should go back to Bora esp with Ackermann still there

Don't think Bora are as high on Ackermann as they were, he's been a flop for the last year and a half

wirelessdude01 · 06-07-2021 05:47PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

I dont think he should go back to Bora esp with Ackermann still there

Isn't Ackermann leaving as he fell out with them as well.

deise08 · 06-07-2021 06:05PM

I wonder is Sam watching?
I know for me the shine is gone off it and the wolf pack this year.
I'm having a 'They took our jobs' (South Park) attitude to it.
Not knowing Cav's history, and seeing the lovefest for him, it's galling.
Is he as nice/good as they say he is.

How must it be for Sam as a participant/team mate?

breezy1985 · 06-07-2021 06:29PM

retalivity wrote: »

Don't think Bora are as high on Ackermann as they were, he's been a flop for the last year and a half

No hope Ackermann and Bennett will have to share the leadership this time round regardless of Pascals nationality

dublin49 · 06-07-2021 06:46PM

God Sam will be thinking he would have walked these stages Cav is winning ,hard to take, funny ould game.

Richard Hillman · 06-07-2021 06:53PM

He'll go to Israel SN. They'll get out of the Froome deal and out their efforts into sprinting.

happytramp · 06-07-2021 07:02PM

deise08 wrote: »

I wonder is Sam watching?
I know for me the shine is gone off it and the wolf pack this year.
I'm having a 'They took our jobs' (South Park) attitude to it.
Not knowing Cav's history, and seeing the lovefest for him, it's galling.
Is he as nice/good as they say he is.

How must it be for Sam as a participant/team mate?

He's one of the best sprinters of all time and a fairly devisive figure personality wise... The comeback angle is massive here and largely responsible for the huge hype. It's not unwarranted to be fair, it's a great story... That said it's not all that enjoyable from a Sam bennett fans point of view.

17-07-2021 07:29PM

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117541125#Comment_117541125

Like a fine wine!

Macy0161 · 19-07-2021 09:31AM

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117606444#Comment_117606444

Before Cav, it was the same for Sam, before Sam it was the same for Viviana, and Kittel, and Cav before. Lefevre has been a complete dick to Sam (the way things have gone though, a 90% Sam would've walked the stages Cav won), but "the wolfpack" is more than just a marketing thing - they do go all in with the best chance of winning.

Anyway, delighted to see WVA win yesterday!

19-07-2021 09:44AM

Just checking up coming races this morning to see if Sam was down to start them, would have thought maybe he'd be at Wallonie this week or Burgos in a few weeks but no. Startlist for Bexelux (Bink Bank / Eneco) isn't finalized yet so maybe he'll do that one?

22-07-2021 10:34PM

Randomly checking again Sam on PCS this morning and he was listed for a few of the Italian races in September, checking again now as I was going to post about those he's back to no upcoming races.

happytramp · 23-07-2021 09:02AM

Now that DQS have two other 'less problematic' sprinters capable of winning in Cav and jakobsen we'll probably only see Sam at races neither of them can make it too... If we see him again this season at all.

23-07-2021 12:31PM

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117650106#Comment_117650106

Yeah, hate to say it but I'd be surprised if we see Sam race again for DQS at all again this season.

gman2k · 26-07-2021 09:57PM

I see Sam has liked a Cycling Ireland Instagram post, but hasn't engaged with and Quickstep stuff in a long time.

26-07-2021 10:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117630930#Comment_117630930

Lefevre doesn't give a fook the way things went with Cav at the TDF tho and all the attention they got

He effectively "won"

In fact, if they keep on Cav for next year's TDF it very much works in their favour interest-wise that the record was "only" tied with EM this year as the can milk it all over again next year

retalivity · 29-07-2021 10:49AM

Sagan and Ackerman confirmed to be leaving Bora now.

They would appear to have a massive Sam-shaped hole in their squad...

breezy1985 · 29-07-2021 10:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117677438#Comment_117677438

Looks like it is a done deal. I'm pretty excited for Aug 1st this year

Its gonna be so stressful in his first race against DQ next year. Felt the same in the build up to his first races last year but then it was grand cause Ackermann turned out to be $h1t

jsoc · 29-07-2021 02:58PM

Looks like I can take out my (end of season, bought at a reduced price) Bora kit out again?

breezy1985 · 29-07-2021 03:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117678850#Comment_117678850

I wonder with Sagan gone will Sam now have to do the cringey "That's Bora" ads

CrowdedHouse · 29-07-2021 03:18PM

I wonder what bikes will they have.

breezy1985 · 29-07-2021 03:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117678961#Comment_117678961

Never thought of that. Specialized are going to follow Sagan to Total and there is no reason the can't do both but with the extra money they gave for Sagan gone Denk might get a better deal somewhere else.

A straight swap with Wilier would be cool. They do some nice looking bikes

Mefistofelino · 29-07-2021 04:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117677438#Comment_117677438

The problem is that the one day / classics/ sprint hole in Bora is being filled with stage race riders like Hindley, Vlasov and Higuita. I'm not sure this is the best move for Sam, particularly if he's expecting a crack at GT stages.

breezy1985 · 29-07-2021 04:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679280#Comment_117679280

He is in the position now I think where he can pick his team based on what's in it for him. He might have to go it alone in GTs but I'm sure he will be getting guarantees that he gets to go to them

Raymzor · 30-07-2021 06:20PM

Any news on Quickstep team for Vuelta?

30-07-2021 06:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684205#Comment_117684205

They've had their team announced for a while now, Jakobsen for the sprints and I guess Knox for stages elsewhere.

sham58107 · 30-07-2021 06:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679416#Comment_117679416

He can pick his team ? do you not think he or his manager really messed up. Next season wont have lead out train, all top sprinters back again unlike this TDF , he will be 1 year older and most importantly looks like his last race was March/April ? cant see any team paying big buck for that, can you see say Man. Utd paying huge money for striker who has not played in nearly a year. and is 1 year older ? Training wont make up for not racing especially for sprinter and a lot of younger guys coming up.

Raymzor · 30-07-2021 11:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684223#Comment_117684223

are new contracts/ transfers only allowed at year end?

30-07-2021 11:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117685252#Comment_117685252

Rare you have a mid season transfer, Masnada from CCC to DQS comes to mind in recent times but CCC were going under so everyone was a free agent as such. Normally transfers and contracts will be negotiated through out the year and deals done but only announced after the first of August but there are always leaks a plenty before then especially around the tour.

Also teams will take on stagiaires sometimes after Aug 1st for the remainder of the season, usually young lads from lower divisions or development teams and see how they go in minor races for the last 3 months or so of the season.

Contracts usually run to year end though, I remember last year some being pictured in new team kit prior to deals being announced.

deise08 · 31-07-2021 07:39AM

Patrick Lefevre offering up his insight again...

https://www.cyclingnews.com/amp/news/patrick-lefevere-likens-sam-bennetts-move-to-bora-to-women-who-return-home-after-domestic-abuse/?__twitter_impression=true

happytramp · 31-07-2021 08:13AM

On the plus side... It's going to be all the sweeter when Sam sticks it to DQS repeatedly next season.

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