Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

For transparency they need to show what the models are based on,the workings etc, at this stage they need to bring the public in or admit it's a big bluff,their credibility is shot.

I didn't vote fg, not a Leo fan but I do think ff have not taken any balls /bravery /responsibility, civil servants are in charge while they are working out what their pensions are.

Not a fan of either myself and have been vocal that I think NPHET's recs for the hospitality industry were drafted by someone who has clearly never worked in it. But, I don't think the time to have balls is during a pandemic and by ignoring advice from your national emergency team. They actually did ignore them partially as far as I'm aware in letting children in unvaccinated and I think that was a worse decision than following the original recommendation.

But generally I feel you have to have a serious reason during a time like this. When everyone is vaccinated and covid is fully controlled (not necessarily eliminated) then they should be able to look into how successful NPHET's approach was and if they find fault then replace those people.

That's the problem with a lot of today's youth. Not willing to stick things out. Always want to have something better, and have it now.

Not prepared to offer it up, suck it up, put a little hard graft in.

The sense of entitlement is bigger now than it ever was.

So you still think young people leaving is a new phenomenon due to covid.

Gas.

We gave them nothing and now they want more of it, the entitled little bastards.

They're not willing to stick it out.

Wait their turn to be vaccinated.

Numbers have soared in their age group, quite obvious they couldn't wait a bit longer, see it to the end.

The elderly are the people who have suffered most in this, a very limited time span left for them and it wasted away in isolation. At least the youth can make up for it, and rebuild. An 80 year old can rebuild very little and has little time left.

They haven't had to wait the longest. They were less at risk so less risk is at the end of the queue. Your solution? Let the elderly and vulnerable die?

Yes, sacrificing youth is important, but sacrificing elderly life is worse.

Each stage in our lives has been affected, not one child or elderly person or anyone in between hasn't been affected. . It's not a competition. But risk factors had to be considered. The youth are being ask to wait a matter of weeks now. Vaccines are flying into them. Hopefully it'll be worth it. And knowing that some did their bit will be the makings of them, while some fecked off cause it was easier. I know who I'd want looking after me in my old age, and it won't be the one that couldn't hack it.

The youth were still out and about, mask free etc while the elderly were locked inside last year I recall ....

Kids have been leaving the country since the year dot. I wouldn't expect it any other way...but to blame it on Covid?

Is good results in college relevant?are you saying those who don't get good results or don't get to college not allowed travel? What have results got to do with leaving the country??

So because your daughter got good results she's ENTITLED to leave the country? Who cares? I rest my case.

I think you need to read up a bit on the restrictions that are abroad before making a wild statement that Ireland is the only one under restrictions.

You've to be 18 to drink alcohol here, as far as I'm aware, vaccines are available from 16+ now....so what's stopping them going inside to a pub after they're vaccinated? They're well able to remain outside pubs and drink alchol at the moment anyway!!