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What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Not necessarily purge, but at least get selective.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    are they making the choice for you?

    they definately are not for me, they didnt either when I lived in a muslim country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭jmreire


    No, in Kosovo everyone who wants to drink, does so openly.. loads of Pectopahs and Bars to choose from , and a wide selection of Pivo's and wines to choose from, so its not a problem. But then again, if you were to measure strict hardline Islam with a score of 10 with 1 being the most relaxed form of Islam, then the 10 would go to Wahabbism, Isis, Taliban etc, and the 1 would go to Kosovar Islam. Trust me BP, there are lots of Islamic Countrys where you will not drink openly, I know because I've lived in them. It takes some getting used to when you are having a few drinks with some friends ( and yes, Muslim friends,) behind closed doors, ( no bars ) and there's a knock at the door, and quick as a flash, everyone hides their drink, including me, until either the coast is clear. or the visitor is made welcome. It reminded me of the opening hours in Irish Pubs years ago ..when the Guards "raided" pubs for after hours drinking. In my early days abroad when I asked why they were behaving like this, they were all grown men, so why? They told me that alcohol is Haram, fobidden, and if you are caught drinking, you will be beaten. Imagine, grown men in their 30's. 40's 50's etc. Being beaten for having a few beers.. So BP, in non-Islamic Coutrys you are free to drink or not, but in Countrys where Sharia Law rules, no you cannot. At least not openly, Kosovo of course being the exception here. Try some of the Stans some time BP....it will broaden your knowledge of Islamic practice's beyond Kosovo.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't need to thanks

    I am well aware that there are Islamic countries where alcohol is forbidden. It seems unlike many posters here.

    So, I will continue to post, everytime I see a generic post that assumes all Muslims are the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    The post rarely assume anything, the one reading it is the one doing the assumptions.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Estonia is now gifting 100km of barbed wire to Lithuania in order to help with building a border fence to stop a massive ongoing influx of migrants.

    The EU will spend billions upon billions of Euros on all sorts of pointless virtue signaling projects but allows possibly the most critical policy needed for it's survival to rely on donations from friendly countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes BP, you are right, all Muslims are not the same, especially as how they interpret Islam and Sharia, thats very true. Now if they were all like the ones in Kosovo,,,,,



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pectopahs!!!! Thanks for giving me a full on belly laugh and a blast from the past. My wife is from that part of the world, not Kosavo but a similar language and it was an in joke we had where I'd call them that too. (Restaurant in Cyrillic reads as pectopah for those wondering)

    Saying slainte when drinking over there was one was met with confusion and raised eyebrows, or outright wtf's???? 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Here's my crib. If you have 30 families coming into Ireland and it's time to.house them how about you find 15 towns and put two families in each.

    If you put 30 families in one town then the majority of locals are nervous and afraid of them. If you put two families in the locals will likely welcome them and they are far more likely to assimilate.


    If you put thirty families together they are going to stick together, they might never learn English, they are likely to stick to their own culture and never become part of the community.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,969 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, I often laugh myself when I think back on when I first arrived in the Balkans...and trying to get to grips with the cyrillic alphabet. And to make it worse, just when you thought that you were making progress...you made the shocking discovery that while the Cyrillic was the same in Serbia or Croatia, they had different words describing the same things..I made some blunders..In Serbian, bread is called "Hleb".but in Croatia, its called "Kruh", and in the times after the war, it was not very advisable to go into a Serb shop and ask for some Kruh,,,or vice versa in a Croat shop, and ask for Hleb. About the safest word througout the Balkans was the univerasl " PIVO "



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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Or heaven forbid you have read something that's been hand written as opposed to typed or worse write it yourself!!!!!!! Many a form filled in with block caps 😀


    EDIT: Actually gives you a good insight into what non native English speakers face here who learned by speaking and not at school where they would have written it as part of the learning. That and we have a lot of words that mean a lot of different things.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    The Charlie hedbo sage continues. Should of been an eye opener, especially when Muslims in the UK were polled afterwards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Not all muslims and all that...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Awful stuff and in the middle of a major European city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Not so European anymore and also these incidents are part and parcel according to their twice elected mayor. We can only take this as a warning of things to come, and maybe it's not too late to do something about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    It's not even the first time this woman has been attacked by muslims in the park.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    You could take your shahada ? Beyond that not much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Oh, so she's a well known islamophobe then? She needs to be silenced and canceled, we can't have this kind of carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Woman stabbed in Hyde Park London the United Kingdom. Yeah that belongs in a thread on multiculturalism in Ireland.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    The issues going on all over Europe with regard to attacks on free speech, women, gay people and our democratic systems are absolutely tied into a discussion on multiculturalism in Ireland. We are seeing the same issues developing here.

    Ireland was the center of Jihadism terrorist arrests in Europe last year, largely ignored by the media.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber



    Ireland was not the centre of "jihadism terrorist arrests" by any metric. Stop drinking the conspiracy coolaid there peter.

    Free speech does not exist in Ireland either peter its an Americanism that does not exist here. Not that you want free speech anyway. Really you just long to be able to say racist things and expect no comeback.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭enricoh


    The Irish times is a hate filled far right rag of a paper Cordell. Just listen to Robbie instead! And give up that coolaid- it'll rot yer teeth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    What about getting stabbed in the head for wearing a Charlie Hebdo t-shirt (where innocent people were slaughtered for cartoons), is this the justified comeback you speak of ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Where abouts in Ireland did that happen wren?

    Or is this just more nonsense that has nothing to do with this thread. You hate Muslims, I get it, but what has your hatred got to do with multiculturalism in Ireland?

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Enricoh stop the lying I have never made any claims on boards about the Irish times. So i would have to wonder why you would try to lie and claim I disparaged the IT.

    Did you read cordells link. I mean there is a table in it with a column for jihadist arrests and Ireland is not the top in europe not even close so peter was lying when he said Ireland was the center of jihadist arrests last year. See lying quote below from Peter.


    As it happens I can read enricoh, something i have to wonder about some of my fellow posters on this thread. Cordells reply and your quote of his reply with link to to the Irish times which supports my claim.

    Did either of you read the link before commenting on it?


    Stop the lying please.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    It happened an 8 hour car journey away in 2021 in a major European city just like ours. I don't hate muslims and your pathetic attempt to spin rational concerns about these kinds of attacks into that is par for the course for you, so by your logic if I don't like seeing women getting stabbed by religious supremacists then Im a racist? Jesus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber



    Honestly textbook definition of a strawman in your post. I never said the things you espouse but its by my logic. Hilarious that you think this is a good rebuttal (time to break out the new laughing at you emoji's) 🤣😂😆.


    This post is just more of the dishonesty from you. What car can I drive from Ireland to Britain, because my electric car does not fare to well when I put it in the sea. How about yours?

    Why are you avoiding the obvious question what is the link to multiculturalism in Ireland?

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The statistics were released a couple of months ago. Ireland was by far and away ahead of every other European country per Capita for jihadi related arrests.. It's previously been discussed here but you know that already, you continue to obfuscate and troll this thread to try and throw it off track.

    Also I haven't said anything racist, just another pathetic attempt by you to derail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Laughing emoji's... great argument alright.

    Its called a ferry onto which you drive your car to be transported over water they're not new.

    Robbie your the last person on this site that can talk about building strawmen. I would say attempting to kill people because they insult your religion would not be a cultural norm in England or Europe, not since the middle ages anyway.



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