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Charge Point Removed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Funny enough the Garda I spoke with did mention something about Tesla but I just thought he didn’t know anything about EVs



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Catalytic convertors are stolen for the materials inside, there aren't many valuable materials in a charge point. I don't see there being a huge market for 2nd hand stolen charge points.



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  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Two to three years time the near new secondhand cars from the UK imported in to Ireland will be PHEVs, there will be huge demand for charge points even if they are over specified for the job of charging a PHEV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Sorry for the robbery. Its not a surprise this day and age and I say its not the first time or the last. Can happen anywhere



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭WattsUp


    Maybe contact MyEnergi...If somebody ever connects it to a HUB they should know and the end user may have to hand it back even if they know nothing about it, apart from buying it from a dodgy guy on the internet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭eddhorse




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I'd be very surprised if we end up with a significant grey market for chargers which leads to theft becoming as common as @Buffman thinks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,302 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Tethered CP with unit in the house and cable through wall?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,180 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    There's feck all EVs and they are stealing the charge points already , is there still free installation?, so when we get up to the amount the government wants and no subsidiaries for charge points of course they will be stolen.


    If the price of metal goes up they'll start cutting the charging cables off when in use.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    There is a row of new houses built near me that all have EV chargers at the front.

    3 of them were stolen in one night about a month ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    If an electrician needs to certify the installation of the charger/EVSE to get the SEAI grant, do they need to know where the unit is coming from?

    How do they know it's in working order and safe to install if it's a secondhand unit? If a secondhand Zappi caught fire who would be on the hook?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭eddhorse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Buffman


    The charger itself is obviously worth money to a thief. CATs are stolen for their materials, chargers are stolen for the charger, the reason they're being stolen doesn't matter too much to the victims. There is a 2nd hand market for them and the OPs one sounds like it was stolen to order. Any valuable object bolted outside your house will be a target. We're up to 4 stolen already in this thread and it's only a few days old.

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    If you have a Nissan Leaf charging outside your house, the Leaf is more likely to be stolen than the charge point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Buffman


    I'd have to disagree. By that logic if you had a Toyota Prius outside your house the whole car is more likely to be stolen than just it's catalytic converter. We've seen how that pans out in the real world. It's all about risk Vs reward for these thefts. 10 minutes outside someones house robbing a charger/car parts is far less risky than going into someones house looking for car keys. I'd agree some people still leave their keys within 'fishing' distance of the front door, but hopefully that's less common now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    Mod Note: Removed, do not make personal comments about other posters

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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shocking stuff!

    I got my Zappy installed 2 weeks ago and it's got a serial number that I'm sure is registered somewhere, it shows up on the app for the HUB so might be worth it for People to record the serial numbers and maybe if it connects to the internet via the hub that it can be detected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,349 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    I’ve asked Aviva if chargers are covered by home insurance. They have to check with the underwriters and come back to me as they haven’t been asked the question before, according to the person I spoke with.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    There have been lots of cases of Nissan Leaf's stolen over the past few years. This Zappi theft and materials stripped from a building site are the first reports I've heard of charge points being stolen.

    Keyless car theft is an even easier task than removing the charge point from the wall. Home intrusion is not required to drive off with someone's car.

    As problems go, I'm not sure why you want to overinflate this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Dont know the make. The houses are only built in the last two years or so, so the chargers must be relatively new.

    All the new houses in that estate have them. I think ive only ever seen about 2 EVs there though. Most people who live there dont even know what this little box beside their front door is :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Tazium


    New houses in recent years have been pre-wired for electric car charging with the power terminated in an externally visible small grey box. Looks like an external socket.

    pre-installing chargers limits choice by the consumer and would seem an unusual choice by a builder. Any chance of the name of area?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Robbing the charging cables is big biz in the UK, handy money at a couple of hundred pounds a pop.

    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/owning-1/2021-03/electric-vehicle-charging-cable-theft-is-on-the-rise/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭drogon.


    Are there any length limitation on the charging cable ?

    Was thinking maybe it will be best to place them at the side of the house, behind the side gate (if you have one) and then find a way to route the cable only when you need to charge the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Not going to tell you where I live :) They are council houses in North Dublin though.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    As a source goes that's pretty lacking, no statistics at all provided. Is it 1000 cables stolen or 4?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,473 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Considering the cost of these chargers surely there should be some security devices? Tamper alarms or something. Even robot mowers have alarms and pin codes.

    Slightly off topic but people saying CCTV is useless. It is to an extent. Footage of someone wearing a cap and mask won't help but if you have the ability to setup alerts such as object removal, face detection, line crossing etc then you'll know the moment someone is stopped outside your house.

    A few times people have said something is happening or someone is checking cars in the crime group for my estate then hours later at 8-9am several people say they saw someone on their camera. Sure what good is that to anyone. What's frustrating is I'm near a Garda station, they'll be there in 3-5 minutes but if nobody is aware of what's going on then they can't call...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Reports on Irish EV Facebook group from 2019 of chargers being stolen and whole cars, Tesla, Leaf, Ioniq, along with some charge cables. These are stolen to order by professionals.

    Try not to get a chargers that lights up, but as others said these groups regularly pass by houses and look for items of value such as specific cars with easy to steal catalytic converters, things on show worth robbing. They often go inside houses and take car keys too. They can use battery grinders to cut chains and boxes and often cut open the sides of vans to get tools.

    The good thing about CCTV is you don't need to set it and it does not give false alarms. It does not prevent thefts, Alarms might make them hurry up or leave but they know Gardai response is minutes to never.



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