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Selective quoting of posts.

  • 21-07-2021 01:30PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭


    Hello!

    Is it planned to enable selective quoting of posts in the future? Currently you must quote the entire post even if it is just one small part of it you wish to address. This I think may lead to confusion and unnecessary arguments.

    Many thanks.

    Post edited by Spear on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    I've seen it mentioned in various threads and it may be worth mentioning in the "Just bugs / missing functionality reports - no griping" thread.

    I would very much imagine it is on the list of things to be addressed though. It's certainly a setback when you wish to address one or two lines of what a poster has said, without quoting a wall of text to do so, and as you said, confusing as to what specific point you are responding to.

    I do know that the current focus is on speed/navigation, so bear with us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    It kinda does make the quote feature entirely useless, except for the fact that it pings/"notifies" the person quoted, apparently.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,328 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Can’t multi quote either



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    If you click there paragraph icon on the left the text being edited a response, there's a special formats option (the one with quote marks). With that you can selectively mark pieces of text of your choice as quotes. It's way more clunky than the single quote button, or the vbulletin method, but it's an option at least.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Spear7:47 pm wrote

    If you click there paragraph icon on the left the text being edited a response, there's a special formats option (the one with quote marks). With that you can selectively mark pieces of text of your choice as quotes. It's way more clunky than the single quote button, or the vbulletin method, but it's an option at least.

    Ah I see now!



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    It's the inverted bold P and I symbol to the left of the response test. I should note that I've seen someone else comment that the icon wasn't appearing for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Many thanks for your suggestion. I see it now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,459 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    if quoting, the entire thing should be viewable and highlight the thing you want to focus on.


    else, this turns into a disaster of a website where people pick and choose what they want others to see by cutting out the other persons posts.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,272 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    It can also help bypass the 6(?) line limit that's the default on a quoted post. But as mentioned it's a bit cumbersome.

    And the symbol is formally called a pilcrow,as I've just learned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Now for some long-winded dissection of others' posts!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Garlinge


    Still confused and wandering about.... I open the home page and am faced with selection of options, Discussions, Categories, Groups, Latest Posts then My Forums and My Threads amd 'trending' and 'thanks'.


    I just want to hop into the topics I am subscribed to and see what new comments are posted so opt for My threads/My forums but recent posts are not highlighted, all in 'bold' and dates that go way back. Then I look at my profile and I see a list called 'Bookmarks' ? and My Discussions... so another set of categories? Simplify please!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    y0ssar1an22 8:19 pm wrote:

    else, this turns into a disaster of a website where people pick and choose what they want others to see by cutting out the other persons posts.

    Yes it is something that can potentially be abused but I think nevertheless it is a useful feature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    else, this turns into a disaster of a website where people pick and choose what they want others to see by cutting out the other persons posts."

    You mean the way boards has worked since it opened? Yes, that's what we'd like, please. Absolutely no need to quote a whole 5-paragraph post if the only point I'm addressing is one line.

    On first reading, I thought you meant you could use this to highlight parts of the text you're quoting - I see now you mean you can just mark something to be in style of a quote. So copy and paste the bit of text from an earlier post I want to highlight. Not as useful as the old quote box, and won't ping the person you're replying to, but somewhat better than nothing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Another issue with "quote style" rather than quote box: when you are using the quotation style in your post which and your post is then quoted, text appears unquoted in the subsequent post when really you don't want it to be seen at all.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    If you @ the user as well as using the quote format it should still ping them and give the appearance of quoting them. Somethng like this:

    @TaurenDruid - Not as useful as the old quote box, and won't ping the person you're replying to, but somewhat better than nothing.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Just quoting the above post to illustrate that the the quote style disappears when quoting a post that uses the style. This can cause confusion as subsequent readers may misinterpret the text as coming from the wrong user.

    Another problem is that the paragraph symbol (the pilcrow) only appears when editing a post you have already made - not when you initially reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I think it's an improvement.

    Some posters are absolutely awful for doing line-by-line rebuttals of posts, which in turn sees the other posters replying line by line. Fisking I believe it's called. It's poor bulletin board etiquette in my mind, and leads to thread meltdowns.



  • Boards.ie Employee, Boards Employee 2, Boards Employee 3 Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    The Pilcrow appears (or should appear) as soon as you click into the Reply text box. Working here for me in this way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Not here for me, but if I edit the post after posting it then it appears. Using Chrome browser.

    Below is a screenshot of what happens when I reply to a post. The dark area on the left is the desktop outside the browser.

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    You need to maximise your browser window for the pilcrow to appear when you click into the comment box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    @Yurt! wrote

    I think it's an improvement.

    I disagree.

    @Yurt! wrote

    Some posters are absolutely awful for doing line-by-line rebuttals of posts, which in turn sees the other posters replying line by line.

    True, but anyone motivated enough to do a line-by-line rebuttal won't be stopped by this. It does nothing to stop the trolls but inconveniences well-intentioned users.

    @Yurt! wrote

    Fisking I believe it's called.

    You're not wrong there.

    @Yurt! wrote

    It's poor bulletin board etiquette in my mind, and leads to thread meltdowns.

    That remains to be seen. ;-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    maximise your browser

    Thank you. That works now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I'm am hoping for abit of advise.

    I created a new post this morning ans i cannot see meaning no-one else can either.

    What am i doing wrong....

    The post heading "removal"



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Just bookmark the thread. I found it by clicking on your profile and scrolling down to 'Discussions'. Discussions is the new name for threads you start.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭TherapyBoy


    https://boards.ie/discussion/2058200372/removal#latest <<- Here it is, in the Motoring & Transport forum. If you have accidentally posted it in the wrong area it might be worth reporting the post & asking it to be moved to where you meant it to be posted initially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Thanks for that but i cannot contact mod, is there a link...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Thanks for that but its not showing in my threads so i am not sure if others seeing..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,909 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There is no Discussions on a profile page for me, just About, Reactions and Activity.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    You have to bookmark it, it doesn't automatically subscribe you any more.

    ETA: report your post to contact a mod. Click on the flag at the bottom, select 'report' and explain you want it moved in the comment box.



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