Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

He's also driven the red bull car a few times which makes him being in the merc garage odd

Does every shareholder get to stand in the garage or is it just the Hollywood set? Cutting away from the action to show them standing around in the garage is very annoying but if that's your thing then fair enough.

Mick Schumacher had a spin in the Jordan 191, Sky were filming something for the Belgian GP coverage

Yeah, Hamilton surely must have a 4 leaf clover in the sock when he's racing as he does seem to get a decnet slice of luck, of course he fucked up in Baku to counter maxs crash out.

Even on Sunday, probably every other driver pits for repairs but he stays and gets a red flag, maybe he was told to do so or knew himself but still. You make your own luck they say.

I disagree that rule has to change. A 10s penalty matters much more to some drivers in some cars than other drivers in other cars. Hamilton has a great car and can make up at 10s penalty, bit others can't. That fact shouldn't impact the severity of the penalty. The penalty should reflect the crime, not the difficulty in overcoming the penalty, or the consequence of the infringement.

Its the same for everyone though, except every time Hamilton benefits from the rules, there is an overwhelming commentary on here to change them. Perez has forced drivers off the track 3 times in the last two races, two of which he got penalised for, and the penalty didn't affect his final position.

Calling it a loophole and comparing it to a coordinated spin in Q3 is suggesting that Hamilton deliberately caused the red flag, in the knowledge that he could repair any damage. Not a safety car, VSC or double waved yellows - but specifically a red flag - all while battling wheel to wheel at 180 mph.

As galling as it is to see Lewis luck into yet another pain-free repair, you just can't send a broken and unsafe car out to restart. If red flag repairs were banned, you're going to see drivers with broken cars go back out there to salvage points rather than call it a day, and we'll all be back here complaining if someone was sent out with a hairline fracture in their suspension that becomes a full-on disintegration, especially at a high-speed corner like 130R or Eau Rouge which would pitch someone into the barrier at 300km/h+. Even if you tried coming up with some constraints like "you can only repair parts critical to car control", you'll have teams arguing that the loss of downforce from losing an endplate or bit of floor (especially from next year onwards) is just as critical as the suspension.

Also worth noting that when Hamilton repaired during the red flag he had not been adjudged as the guilty party for the incident.

At that point for stewards Max may have been decided on as the cause of the accident so then Hamilton gets penalised with no repair for an accident he arguably didn't cause.

I suppose it makes a case for stewards making decisions quicker but when I saw the collision originally I said to myself I would not want to be a steward because I couldn't call if it was a racing incident or if a driver was to blame

Mick Schumacher behind the wheel of the Jordan 191:

Fu-ckin glorious sight.

I am tempted to fly down to Austin for one.

Mind games if anything I would say. This would put more eyes on any driver if there was a potential flare up in the future.

I’d say it’s quite a normal behind the scenes process that a lot of teams do as the bill for damage can be quite high and it’s just a case of crossing t’s and dotting i’s. It’s just a news site looking for clicks and making a story of it because of the spotlight the crash received!

Every F1 team has a team of lawyers on retainer no doubt!

He watches Dave during the day.

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Poor Marko being sucked in at his old age.