When you U turn quickly, it is called spinning, particularly if you do it often enough.
Empty post - this new version?
Interesting bit of analysis on RTE a while ago that 'Freedom Day' is aimed solely at Tory backbenchers and the right wing press - all about them keeping them happy and on board.
Thus we have the bizarre situation where even considerable numbers of Tory voters are uncomfortable with the ditching of masks, ending of restrictions etc.
Grotesque, unprecedented, bizarre, unbelievable.
Excellent article here on the state of play in UK and how it got to this point. All very sinister when laid out like this even if many here won't be surprised when reading it.
The politics of lies: Boris Johnson and the erosion of the rule of law
This paragraph itself is very apt not only when considering Johnson but also the US version of the incompetent leader who thankfully, for now at least anyway, is in the past.
"In any case, the actual lies are only part of the problem; the bigger issue is the blurring of the truth behind the bullshit, as the American philosopher Harry Frankfurt deduced as far back as the 1980s. If you lie, you must know the truth, and keep an eye on the facts as your reference system. That way, truth ultimately retains its validity. The bullshitter, on the other hand – and Frankfurt believed this to be key – is indifferent to the truth; he simply takes liberties with truth and facts. He is not interested in “reality”. He is only interested in making his claims stick. He manipulates everything to suit his cause, in order to hide the fact that he is up to no good. He obscures the facts as points of reference and by so doing undermines the political culture of a democracy that depends on the distinction between what is true and what is false."
What the fûck were they thinking? Pretty much the only thing that has ever threatened Johnson's support within his party and his standing in the polls was the Barnard Castle rules-for-the-plebs-but-not-for-us business. How could he possibly think that this "pilot programme" shîte wouldn't be met with universal outrage? This u-turn was (a) absolutely inevitable and (b) wholly avoidable. It defied understanding why Johnson would do this to himself; there was no possible scenario in which it wouldn't damage him.
Someone is losing his touch, I think.
Did the Javid thing blow up in their faces? There was no need for him to make a big dramatic public announcement he had Covid, he could easily have covered it up and the media would have been none the wiser (it's the middle of summer). Instead the whole stunt seems to have resulted in terrible publicity for Johnson.
Its bad enough what they did but trying to cover Javids positive test up would have been multiple times worse. It would have been reckless and stupid beyond belief and with no hope of remaining uncovered. Questions would inevitably be asked where Javid was, assuming he wouldn't have been stupid enough to carry on his business as normal, and then they'd ask about the pm and other close contacts. It would be barnard castle levels of fury again, possibly even worse.
But apparently he didn't even wait for a PCR test result before making his video address to the nation. I can't help think this was some sort of a Tory publicity stunt that went badly wrong. Even if Javid tested positive, he could have made a lowkey announcement by press release, followed all correct procedures and self isolated for a week or ten days. Johnson being forced into a public U-turn about isolating at Chequers and taking a huge amount of flak can not have been part of any Tory script.
Ah right, though low key announcement is a bit different to cover up as previously alluded i think! Possible there was some kind of publicity stunt going on, i don't really know, but not sure it alters the equation appreciably anyway. Javid was positive, his close contacts including pm and chancellor were pinged, and they wanted to get out of it any way they could. Reporters were going to ask questions whatever way it went down and I think the sooner uncovered for Johnson the better as it enabled them to limit the damage. As things transpired i can only conclude they believed either no one would cop on to it or they'd buy the lame story about how they'd been "randomly selected" for a testing pilot if they did.
The whole thing was a bit odd. Javid said he conducted a test on himself at home on Saturday morning and within a couple of hours posted a video announcing to the nation he had Covid (without even waiting for a PCR result to confirm it). It has the hallmarks of some sort of a PR stunt which went wrong (even if he actually has Covid) as it ended up with Johnson being attacked from all sides yesterday. It's possible that Javid didn't think through the implications for Johnson having to self isolate when he released the video.
I don't think it's that complicated. Javid tested positive by LFT on Friday, it was confirmed by pcr the following day. The health secretary testing positive even though double jabbed was always going to be a big story regardless of how the news was relayed. A few people were idly posting on twittrr that night and following morning about pm being a close contact. Media picked up on it and made calls to downing st, guff about pilot scheme released, mini storm erupted and quick uey initiated. Nothing much to do with Javid ultimately, but Johnson and Sunak trying to weasel out of self isolation. I bet Sunak is absolutely raging at having to do it.
Agree with most of that but Javid clearly says on the video he took the lateral flow test on Saturday morning and then released the video shortly afterwards (unless he is lying about when he even took the test). Whatever the intention behind the video, it seems to have gone a bit pear shaped. We can assume Johnson being attacked by all sides yesterday and even by the English right wing press can not have been part of any Tory media spin.
I think it's just pure hubris rather than any deep plan. I think they actually believe doing it on video like that will lead to an avalanche of sympathy and "R U allrite hun" feelings from the public
I honestly don't have any great opinion on the Javid video. Seems he might have waited until the pcr test was confirmed before making it, that's probably fair.
But I don't see that as very relevant to what transpired with the pm and Sunak the next morning. That bit is really simple. Guy tests positive, close contacts get pinged, they all isolate. Couldn't be simpler. Except they tried to bring a complication into it, got called out and forced into another humiliating u turn. That really is the long and short of it from what I saw anyway.
That might well be a good explanation. The usual Tory incompetence and things not going quite to plan.
It's been a very bad weekend for Johnson anyway. Criticism coming from all quarters, 'Freedom Day' being a damp squib and lots of bad press (not that this will have any effect on Tory voters it seems).
Yeah, that is the case. It does seem like as long as they can keep going without any significant policies, just keep stirring the culture wars pot, and they'll be ok. Weak opposition helps, it has to be said.
Always good to end by blaming someone else
Of course, the fact the tories are being humiliated with monotonous regularity and still maintaining, even increasing, their poll lead has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the opposition. How silly of me to even suggest such an outlandish thing.
How could Starmer stop anything that has happened since Covid or how does anything Johnson has done since lockdown. How can a "weak" opposition be blamed for the choices being made
I was responding to a post about the tory electorate and why they keep voting tories and I simply suggested, well, weak opposition helps. IMVHO, of course. Where you got the notion i was holding the leader of the opposition personally responsible for the decisions of the government, I've no idea, quite frankly.
Well I assumed that you saying the opposition was weak meant you though the opposition was weak. Sorry if I misunderstood.
Some of the Tory electorate will vote for them no matter what but we have seen a drop off recently and we have yet to see a big vote not dominated by "get brexit done" so we can't truely judge right now how Labour are doing but the regional parties certainly have their tails up
the tories have 80 seat majority and the main oppoistion are piss poor, labour have gone from a clueless clown to one that can't find any message to gain traction. The only opposition of any consequence are the snp.
Yes, me saying the opposition was weak means I think the opposition is weak. Fair assumption there anyway.
I wouldn't say Amersham was much of a brexit vote and while labour weren't in the running, you don't expect them to lose their deposit either, for all the guff about "electoral alliances." The local elections have resoundingly carried grim tidings too. But then, we're supposedly about to see the real Keir emerge any day now. Gloves will be off and the tories will be running scared.
Let's wait and see. These definitely are politically uncertain times, even more so than early 90s, so anything is possible. I do think the tories will lose ground but no guarantees labour will be the ones to profit most from it.
By clueless clown I assume you mean the man who had May running to the DUP of all people. Not exactly a win by Labour standards but in Brexitian it wasn't that bad and he tapped into voters better than given credit for. He is gone though so it's not him I was talking about All I said was Labour are untested in a major election currently but more importantly there is more to the opposition than them and the Tories are handing Scotland and NI to the opposition on a silver platter
BBC News at 10 leading with an interview with Dominic Cummings by Laura K :
Amazing. How did she manage to land that interview? Are the bbc even the slightest bit embarrassed about this or do they imagine the whole nation will be agog to hear Laura chinwag with her "very special source"?
You regular reminder that social media is not real life.
In the latest opinion poll this week the Tories increased their lead over Labour to 13 points.This was the 120th opinion poll in succession that has put the Tories well ahead of Labour.
Boris remains box office.
He's box office for an ever decreasing circle of oul wans, oul fellas and bigots.
The longer the Tories stay in power, the more incredible the final explosion will be.