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Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

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  • #5402
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    AhhHere wrote: »
    Looking for some answers.

    - Had a boots appointment. Was cancelled
    - Another pharmacy called for 2 weeks time
    - should I still register with HSE in case the pharmacy appointment falls through for whatever reason?

    Not counting anything until I have it. Want to make sure I give myself the best chance.
    Yeah you can do that. Once you get vaccinated the other one will be cancelled.


  • #5403
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    corruption?
    right sure.

    Pharmacies are entitled to give the vaccine to anyone between 18-34 who hasn't been vaccinated.

    There isn't any caveat on whether that needs to first come, by age, or even lucky dip selection if they so wish.
    they're entitled to give out the vaccine, however and to whoever they see fit once the minimum requirement is met

    It's not corruption if someone needs to wait a few extra days or weeks, and that's all it will be

    And pharmacies dont have the facilities , the time or the staff to go through the applications with a fine tooth comb
    They get their vaccine and make lists and jab who is on the list . They cannot be trying to sort by age or gender or any other criteria


  • #5404
    Godot.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The European Union have ordered nearly 40 million additional doses of the Covid-19 vaccine produced by Johnson & Johnson.

    Ursula is great for ordering stuff but unless these are arriving soon it's pretty meh.


  • #5405
    AhhHere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭AhhHere


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Yeah you can do that. Once you get vaccinated the other one will be cancelled.

    Thank you. Have noted all places I'm registered so plan to call to remove from all lists after I get the jab.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... yada yada yada.


  • #5406
    cgcsb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    is_that_so wrote: »
    TBH this looks more like your own anxiety about this. You're not the first to go through this and other groups have been there before you. Your day with the needle will come so it might be best to distract yourself with other things.

    I'm not really that annoyed about it. :pac:
    But it is a joke to say that a private business can do as they see fit with public property.


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  • #5407
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    AhhHere wrote: »
    Thank you. Have noted all places I'm registered so plan to call to remove from all lists after I get the jab.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... yada yada yada.
    I believe it will be automatic.


  • #5408
    cgcsb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,098 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    AhhHere wrote: »
    Looking for some answers.

    - Had a boots appointment. Was cancelled
    - Another pharmacy called for 2 weeks time
    - should I still register with HSE in case the pharmacy appointment falls through for whatever reason?

    Not counting anything until I have it. Want to make sure I give myself the best chance.

    I would still register and if you do get the pharmacy vaccine, you can cancel with the HSE.


  • #5409
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Godot. wrote: »
    Ursula is great for ordering stuff but unless these are arriving soon it's pretty meh.
    Apparently some countries have activated the option.


    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-orders-nearly-40-million-additional-jj-covid-vaccines-2021-07-06/


  • #5410
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    airy fairy wrote: »
    There is logic.
    You are being sent where vaccines are being supplied to. Obviously Greystones has more people getting Astra Zeneca.
    This is happening all over the country. And you're luckier than a lot in that you can avail of public transport. Lots can't.
    You can always cancel and see if you're offered someplace else.

    That's just what I did. The call centre actually said that was a mistaken appointment as I shouldn't really be sent half way to Wexford from central Dublin, so I cancelled. Might take an extra week or so but not bothered.

    If needs really must I'll schlep down to Greystones, but it would be much more efficient all round if I could get one in central Dublin.


  • #5411
    generallyjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭generallyjack


    I'm being bold, but I want to ask do you think I would get the vaccine faster if I were to register with my parents home address instead of my Dublin address given the delays in Dublin? Or do you think they will ramp up and catch up quickly once the shipments arrive?


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  • #5412
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,174 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I believe it will be automatic.

    It won't take you off manual lists in pharmacies. If you get a pharmacy one it'll knock you off the HSE options (mRNA and the voluntary AZ/JJ one yet to open) when they upload that you're done, which could be days later

    So cancel your own apppointments preferably


  • #5413
    guyfawkes5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭guyfawkes5


    generallyjack wrote: »
    I'm being bold, but I want to ask do you think I would get the vaccine faster if I were to register with my parents home address instead of my Dublin address given the delays in Dublin? Or do you think they will ramp up and catch up quickly once the shipments arrive?
    No-one here will know for sure.

    Will you be able to travel for the appointment easily if they give you a appointment near them?


  • #5414
    Padre_Pio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    cgcsb wrote: »
    I'm not really that annoyed about it. :pac:
    But it is a joke to say that a private business can do as they see fit with public property.

    They're not though.
    They're vaccinating people between 18-34 and over 50.
    Exactly what they were told to do.

    You're expecting far too much from pharmacies. MVCs aren't vaccinating by age either. You have 39 year olds and 35 year olds vaccinated on the same day.


  • #5415
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From AFP, interesting on the 3 doses.

    "Faced with very little data – and fears that some of these patients could be particularly vulnerable to the virus - scientists are seeking to figure out how to best protect them.

    In one of the largest research projects into the issue so far, dozens of French hospitals have launched a two-year study of some 10,000 people to help shine light onto how people with these conditions respond to immunisation for the coronavirus. Authorities like the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say people with compromised immune systems can receive the vaccine, but stress that there is still little data on safety.

    “If you have a condition or are taking medications that weaken your immune system, you may not be fully protected even if you are fully vaccinated,” the CDC adds.

    People’s immune systems can be suppressed by disease - or by treatments taken to deal with other conditions - and this may mean their body has trouble producing the antibodies vaccines are meant to trigger.

    Conditions where this might be the case include diabetes, obesity, cancer, organ and bone marrow transplants, chronic severe kidney failure, HIV or multiple sclerosis. In the case of a transplant, a patient’s immune response is suppressed on purpose to prevent his or her body from attacking the new organ.

    Another French study published in the New England Journal of Medicine looked at 100 transplant patients and found their immune response to vaccines was insufficient after two doses. Scientists recommended three doses for those patients, which is now the rule in France."


  • #5416
    guyfawkes5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭guyfawkes5


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Pharmacies are private businesses.

    Everyone from 30 up should have a shot in their arm in the next 2 or 3 weeks.
    We've waited 7 months so far. What's another few weeks.
    As people have probably noted by now, they are distributing vaccines which have been paid for by the government and pharmacies would have agreed with the government will be distributed in a certain way. The medical industry is usually covered in a web of ethics agreements that they operate under regardless.

    There may be worse things going on in the world right now, but "private businesses" doesn't cover something like this.


  • #5417
    guyfawkes5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭guyfawkes5


    AhhHere wrote: »
    Looking for some answers.

    - Had a boots appointment. Was cancelled
    - Another pharmacy called for 2 weeks time
    - should I still register with HSE in case the pharmacy appointment falls through for whatever reason?

    Not counting anything until I have it. Want to make sure I give myself the best chance.
    From what I've seen, Boots will cancel appointments if you are not of the correct age at the point of booking (even if you will be at the correct age when you show up to the appointment). This might explain the cancellation. You could try again when they update their platform for the new age group. If you're of the correct age, then I have no idea.

    You should still register with the HSE if you have no definite date for a vaccination - the HSE's system should update if you get vaccinated elsewhere.


  • #5418
    generallyjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭generallyjack


    guyfawkes5 wrote: »
    No-one here will know for sure.

    Will you be able to travel for the appointment easily if they give you a appointment near them?

    Thank you for replying. Yeah, I moved up to Dublin from Laois earlier in the year, so just under an hour away. I suppose either way I won't be waiting more than a few weeks.

    Like everyone, I am eager to get it done as soon as possible when I finally get to register later in the week.


  • #5419
    Hococop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    Probably asked all over the thread, with 30-34 open tomorrow can we register at midnight or is it open around 9 or so tomorrow?


  • #5420
    guyfawkes5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭guyfawkes5


    Hococop wrote: »
    Probably asked all over the thread, with 30-34 open tomorrow can we register at midnight or is it open around 9 or so tomorrow?
    It's open right now so you can register.

    The text isn't updated on the website, but you can complete the registration.


  • #5421
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭duffman13


    guyfawkes5 wrote: »
    As people have probably noted by now, they are distributing vaccines which have paid for by the government and pharmacies would have agreed with the government that they will be distributed in a way decided by the government.

    Pharmacies were given clear instructions on Pfizer vaccinations (vaccinate in line with current cohort) the Janssen vaccine was vaccinate anyone in the 18-34 cohort. Pharmacies probably would have preferred a more targeted approach to reduce the number of calls/registrations they've recieved in the last 4 days


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  • #5422
    Hococop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    guyfawkes5 wrote: »
    It's open right now so you can register.

    The text isn't updated on the website, but you can complete the registration.

    Just click the 35-69 tab and register even if I'm not in that group?


  • #5423
    airy fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    AhhHere wrote: »
    Looking for some answers.

    - Had a boots appointment. Was cancelled
    - Another pharmacy called for 2 weeks time
    - should I still register with HSE in case the pharmacy appointment falls through for whatever reason?

    Not counting anything until I have it. Want to make sure I give myself the best chance.

    By registering on the portal this week you are asking for an Astra Zeneca or J&J vaccine. My guess is you may get the AZ offer.
    My daughter is only on a pharmacy wait list, she will register on the portal when the time comes for the Pfizer/Moderna.


  • #5424
    guyfawkes5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭guyfawkes5


    Hococop wrote: »
    Just click the 35-69 tab and register even if I'm not in that group?
    Yes. The form will accept your birth year if you're in the 30-34 age group.


  • #5425
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    airy fairy wrote: »
    By registering on the portal this week you are asking for an Astra Zeneca or J&J vaccine. My guess is you may get the AZ offer.
    My daughter is only on a pharmacy wait list, she will register on the portal when the time comes for the Pfizer/Moderna.
    Isn't there a need to opt-in for both of those?


  • #5426
    airy fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Isn't there a need to opt-in for both of those?

    I 'think' you register for both, not just one. There are, apparently, lots of AZ leftovers, so I'd imagine they'll ship the j&j to pharmacies and keep AZ for mvc and do the remaining over 50/60's with them.
    I'm only guessing mind you.

    The thing I wonder is, if you register for those, get offered AZ, refuse, are you in line for a j&j, or in time, do you simply get in line for Pfizer, or are you totally committed to those two alone.


  • #5427
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Fergal Bowers reporting HSE expect to complete AZ second doses by the end of next week (around 120,000 people left).


  • #5428
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    airy fairy wrote: »
    I 'think' you register for both, not just one. There are, apparently, lots of AZ leftovers, so I'd imagine they'll ship the j&j to pharmacies and keep AZ for mvc and do the remaining over 50/60's with them.
    I'm only guessing mind you.

    The thing I wonder is, if you register for those, get offered AZ, refuse, are you in line for a j&j, or in time, do you simply get in line for Pfizer, or are you totally committed to those two alone.
    No, I mean don't you have to consent to them in that 18-34 group as against the mRNA which they just assign?


  • #5429
    airy fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No, I mean don't you have to consent to them in that 18-34 group as against the mRNA which they just assign?

    Sorry, yes I assume so, same as in the pharmacy.


  • #5430
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Isn't there a need to opt-in for both of those?

    The opt in will start on Monday (the 12th). Anyone under the age of 30 who registers on the portal will effectively be opting in to receive a J & J or AZ dose at an MVC. I assume all the details will be announced this weekend before it goes live.


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  • #5431
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Ignore it. Worked for me 1988.

    1989 - registered now.


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