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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #8312
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Deusexmachina wrote: »
    We have been waiting for the 'next two weeks' for 18 months now.
    The goalposts will just be moved.

    That’s almost certain given previous form.

    Once adults are done we’ll be told we need to wait until children are vaccinated.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-way-to-end-cycle-of-transmission-without-vaccinating-children-1.4611352


  • #8313
    aziz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭aziz


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    That’s almost certain given previous form.

    Once adults are done we’ll be told we need to wait until children are vaccinated.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-way-to-end-cycle-of-transmission-without-vaccinating-children-1.4611352

    And then we have too wait tor the animals

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oakland-zoo-animals-vaccine-covid/


  • #8314
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,753 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    aziz wrote: »
    And then we have too wait tor the animals

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oakland-zoo-animals-vaccine-covid/

    booster shot first

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #8315
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    is_that_so wrote: »
    NPHET are using 2%-3% in their models, the UK, our model, is at 1.6%

    Last 4 weeks here 10062 cases, of which 198 hospital admissions: 1.96% admissions (going with a 1 week lag between positive case and admission, it's pretty much the same as cases haven't increased substantially)
    Maybe NPHET believe vaccinations case a higher hospitalization figure?
    I'm all for being cautious, but jesus it's has a big impact, at least use realistic figures.


  • #8316
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,062 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Stheno wrote: »
    What county are you in? I've not seen this at all

    I was in Kerry when that happened but I'm from Cork. I've seen 4/5 places between the village I was in in Kerry and some places in Cork allowing people indoors. One was a hotel but just allow people in anyway if not resident there.


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  • #8317
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deusexmachina wrote: »
    We have been waiting for the 'next two weeks' for 18 months now.
    The goalposts will just be moved.
    We have but this is to wait for data from the UK. The government are starting to diverge a little bit from NPHET. In the meantime keep an eye on UK numbers.


  • #8318
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    nialler1978 wrote: »
    I’ve no doubt this has been answered but things changing so quickly so I am unsure and all the looking up I do is so grey, we’ve had a sudden family bereavement in london, my dads brother and my dad passed away some years ago. The death was non Covid related and I am the only nephew in Ireland so feel I should travel for a few days to pay condolences. I have had my first dose of vaccine. Could anyone please advise what I need to do to enter and exit london, it is only going to be for 3 or 4 days when they have verified the funeral. Many thanks.

    Maybe check the disclaimers or t&c's of the airports and ports, you may need to take a PCR or Anti-Gen test two days prior to your flight or voyage.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #8319
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I see RTÉ really have the finger on the pulse of the mood of the nation. Advertising a show next Monday night on how Covid affected Ireland's wealthiest rich list people. :pac:

    Straight from the ghettos of Dalkey and Monkstown, it's been a hard year


  • #8320
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Last 4 weeks here 10062 cases, of which 198 hospital admissions: 1.96% admissions (going with a 1 week lag between positive case and admission, it's pretty much the same as cases haven't increased substantially)
    Maybe NPHET believe vaccinations case a higher hospitalization figure?
    I'm all for being cautious, but jesus it's has a big impact, at least use realistic figures.

    Are all the 196 in hospital being treated from having covid, or what % of those 196 are in hospital for something else and just happen to have a positive covid test at the time?


  • #8321
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    jackboy wrote: »
    Outdoor dining doesn’t work in Ireland as a solo option. Only useful as something alongside indoor dining.

    My local just didn't bother opening today, what's the point for them?


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  • #8322
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    zackory wrote: »
    Are all the 196 in hospital being treated from having covid, or what % of those 196 are in hospital for something else and just happen to have a positive covid test at the time?

    The data on the hub used to display covid admissions but was changed to positive cases in hospital, so the figures they quote are just positive cases in hospital. Not strictly admitted because of covid.

    I'd guess most cases detected in hospital (non admission) would have been down to hospital outbreaks, but they have all but been eliminated. That's not to say someone testing positive for covid after being admitted doesn't cause an extra burden on the health system.

    But it's not like covid is rampant in the community, so I can't imagine there's that many out there being admitted for various illnesses and testing positive on admission.


  • #8323
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    titan18 wrote: »
    Yup, pubs aren't even hiding it at this stage. Walked past a place yesterday and giant TV inside that you can see through the window showing the England game
    Saw something similar myself today, but an "outdoor" portakabin thing beside a pub that was clearly an indoor location - packed with people.

    No enforcement as ever in this country, so those businesses who follow the rules lose out - they can't open because the government are worried about the hundreds of cases we have currently, and meanwhile the cowboys carry on regardless.


  • #8324
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    nialler1978 wrote: »
    I’ve no doubt this has been answered but things changing so quickly so I am unsure and all the looking up I do is so grey, we’ve had a sudden family bereavement in london, my dads brother and my dad passed away some years ago. The death was non Covid related and I am the only nephew in Ireland so feel I should travel for a few days to pay condolences. I have had my first dose of vaccine. Could anyone please advise what I need to do to enter and exit london, it is only going to be for 3 or 4 days when they have verified the funeral. Many thanks.

    You don’t need anything going over. Coming back you need a negative pcr, which has to be taken with 72 hours of your arrival in ireland. Factoring in the time for the results to arrive (you can pay extra for 24 hr), you need to get the test done 2-3 days before you return.


  • #8325
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    hmmm wrote: »
    Saw something similar myself today, but an "outdoor" portakabin thing beside a pub that was clearly an indoor location - packed with people.

    Great to hear. The workarounds are being rolled out at great pace.


  • #8326
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭brickster69


    is_that_so wrote: »
    We have but this is to wait for data from the UK. The government are starting to diverge a little bit from NPHET. In the meantime keep an eye on UK numbers.

    Ireland has the data now from the UK to see how it has gone, does not mean it will follow though.

    15 minutes rough calculation gives Ireland 5 weeks behind the UK based on 70% Delta

    UK Figures

    May 25th

    972,000 Tests
    2,493 Positive cases ( 1 case in 390 tests )
    131 Hospital admissions
    18 ICU admissions
    Deaths 6

    Vaccinations

    1st dose 57.3%
    2nd dose 35.8%

    1st July

    1,030,000 Tests
    Cases 22,5000 Cases ( 1 in 46 tests )
    232 Hospital admissions
    40 ICU admissions
    Deaths 16

    Vaccinations

    1st dose 67.4%
    2nd dose 50.0%

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #8327
    bloopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭bloopy


    zackory wrote: »
    Are all the 196 in hospital being treated from having covid, or what % of those 196 are in hospital for something else and just happen to have a positive covid test at the time?

    Nobody knows.
    And asking that question over the last year gets you branded a conspiracy theorist. Maybe with some 5G comment thrown in for good measure.


  • #8328
    aziz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭aziz


    bloopy wrote: »
    Nobody knows.
    And asking that question over the last year gets you branded a conspiracy theorist. Maybe with some 5G comment thrown in for good measure.

    And being a fan of Gemma


  • #8329
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    zackory wrote: »
    I was in a place the other day and they asked for tracing name and number and I was like "weird", so 2020.

    No other place I have been in yet has wasted their time with that particular rubbish.
    What kind of place was it? I'd like to know more before seeing it dismissed as "rubbish".


  • #8330
    Theanswers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    nialler1978 wrote: »
    I’ve no doubt this has been answered but things changing so quickly so I am unsure and all the looking up I do is so grey, we’ve had a sudden family bereavement in london, my dads brother and my dad passed away some years ago. The death was non Covid related and I am the only nephew in Ireland so feel I should travel for a few days to pay condolences. I have had my first dose of vaccine. Could anyone please advise what I need to do to enter and exit london, it is only going to be for 3 or 4 days when they have verified the funeral. Many thanks.

    Travel via Northern Ireland. No restrictions and no costly PCR. It's what the majority are doing.


  • #8331
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    hmmm wrote:
    No enforcement as ever in this country, so those businesses who follow the rules lose out - they can't open because the government are worried about the hundreds of cases we have currently, and meanwhile the cowboys carry on regardless.
    And those idiots are the reason we have restrictions in place.


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  • #8332
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,356 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    eagle eye wrote: »
    And those idiots are the reason we have restrictions in place.

    And how many times since this pandemic began has this line been trotted out?


  • #8333
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    giveitholly wrote:
    And how many times since this pandemic began has this line been trotted out?
    The truth will be told a lot.
    If everybody was sensible, cop on and following advice, we'd be all fine and covid would never have been a big issue here.
    It's the idiots who don't listen or take chances that are responsible for the spread.


  • #8334
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    eagle eye wrote: »
    And those idiots are the reason we have restrictions in place.

    And what about the sheebeens, house parties, traveller funerals, schools being open, meat factories, dame Lane, South William Street, direct provision centres, people flying in and out etc., etc., etc.


  • #8335
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gral6


    eagle eye wrote: »
    And those idiots are the reason we have restrictions in place.

    Idiots are in government now.


  • #8336
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    zackory wrote: »
    I was in a place the other day and they asked for tracing name and number and I was like "weird", so 2020.

    No other place I have been in yet has wasted their time with that particular rubbish.
    That's your view, but if they are that casual about Covid I'd be willing to bet that casualness probably extends into other areas of their business, including hygiene and food preparation.

    There's a reason good businesses take their responsibilities seriously.


  • #8337
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,356 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The truth will be told a lot.
    If everybody was sensible, cop on and following advice, we'd be all fine and covid would never have been a big issue here.
    It's the idiots who don't listen or take chances that are responsible for the spread.

    And if NHPET and Tony Holohan weren't on a power trip and trying to keep us in lockdown forever then maybe people wouldn't be as fed up and exhausted from all the restrictions


  • #8338
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The truth will be told a lot.
    If everybody was sensible, cop on and following advice, we'd be all fine and covid would never have been a big issue here.
    It's the idiots who don't listen or take chances that are responsible for the spread.

    Maybe the sensible ones are getting on with their lives for the last 17 months as best they can, and the idiots are the ones lapping up everything Tony Holohan says.


  • #8339
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,033 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The truth will be told a lot.
    If everybody was sensible, cop on and following advice, we'd be all fine and covid would never have been a big issue here.
    It's the idiots who don't listen or take chances that are responsible for the spread.

    That sure is a nice thing to say about all those older people who died in the nursing homes, I guess if they had just listened there wouldn't have been a big issue.

    Of course, they would have been listening to Tony telling people it was fine to visit and not to wear PPE, but still, we need to listen to the experts.


  • #8340
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    That sure is a nice thing to say about all those older people who died in the nursing homes, I guess if they had just listened there wouldn't have been a big issue.

    Of course, they would have been listening to Tony telling people it was fine to visit and not to wear PPE, but still, we need to listen to the experts.

    That's been debunked. Covid entered nursing homes weeks after they restricted visitors. It was not visitors that brought Covid into the nursing homes, it was the staff. I'm placing no blame on the staff at all.


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  • #8341
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,356 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    That sure is a nice thing to say about all those older people who died in the nursing homes, I guess if they had just listened there wouldn't have been a big issue.

    Of course, they would have been listening to Tony telling people it was fine to visit and not to wear PPE, but still, we need to listen to the experts.

    And sent people from hospitals back into the nursing homes without testing them for Covid but sure NHPET knows best,sure what would us mere plebs know?


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