Tour de France stage 5 (ITT): Changé to Laval Espace Mayenne (27.2km)

mr spuckler · 30-06-2021 9:23am #1

One that might have been easier to predict before the crashes on stage 3, we should see the yellow jersey changing hands regardless.

The course description is interesting...

A nearly circular, lumpy course with no classified climbs but plenty of false flats and grinding ascents.

Another interesting comment on CN, I don't know their source but this would seem to be a huge expected loss for a quality TT'er like Roglic.

Jumbo-Visma were rumoured on Tuesday morning to be expecting Primož Roglič to lose around 90 seconds to Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates). That was notwithstanding Roglič’s crashes and injuries.

Odds from Bet365
Wout Van Aert 13/8
Stefan Bissegger 10/3
Stefan Kung 4/1
Kasper Asgreen 7/1
Soren Kragh Andersen 16/1
Primoz Roglic 18/1
Tadej Pogacar 18/1
Mikkel Bjerg 22/1
Geraint Thomas 25/1
Julian Alaphilippe 25/1

CantGetNoSleep · 30-06-2021 9:33am

14 / 15 90 degree + turns at least from the course map. Hard to tell how much impact they will have without looking at the actual roads & how wide they are. Wonder will anyone do a Remi Cavanga on it.

mr spuckler · 30-06-2021 9:36am

Interesting with all those turns that CN don't think it's too technical.

The mid-week course is reported to be not overly technical and is mainly run on wide roads

Tim76 · 30-06-2021 9:56am

Strange comments from CN alright. Even with Rog's injuries it's difficult to see him losing that amount of time to Pog.

Paddigol · 30-06-2021 9:59am

Sounds like bluffing from JV re Rog. But with his injuries its all a bit of an unknown now I suppose.

Morris Garren · 30-06-2021 10:03am

I have Bisseger Kung and Asscream in my fantasy team- but they will all have to go hard to beat Wout! I have had a sense of anticipation about this stage for a while, and with many twists and turns I'm hoping nothing crazy happens. Froome might still be having nightmares about 90 degree turns with walls. And I would love to see the therapeutic exemption list of painkillers for today--- half the peloton are holding the tuck with road rash, separated shoulders and dodgy wrists...

retalivity · 30-06-2021 12:00pm

Just watching Tony Martin finish here, the last 500m are bendy as hell

breezy1985 · 30-06-2021 12:09pm

Word is VdP is gonna go all out to try keep yellow something to do with buying specialist wheels and a 10 hour overnight drive to get them to him.
Don't know much about his TT skills and how possible it is though but we have certainly seen him put in strong long solo rides

retalivity · 30-06-2021 12:24pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Word is VdP is gonna go all out to try keep yellow something to do with buying specialist wheels and a 10 hour overnight drive to get them to him.
Don't know much about his TT skills and how possible it is though but we have certainly seen him put in strong long solo rides

€3800, bought from Ineos man Cameron Wurf and driven up from his house in Andorra

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/10-hour-journey-delivers-sponsor-incorrect-wheels-for-van-der-poels-tour-de-france-time-trial/

Dr. Bre · 30-06-2021 12:28pm

Wonder how much time Lopez will lose today !

Brian? · 30-06-2021 1:12pm

Good to see the Start and finish are nice and close to a Decathlon. Handy if they need a few tubes, socks or cheap bidons.

retalivity · 30-06-2021 1:42pm

Bisseger's POC stormtrooper helmet is ridiculous

Tim76 · 30-06-2021 1:48pm

retalivity wrote: »

Bisseger's POC stormtrooper helmet is ridiculous

Sometimes the gains just aren't worth it.

mewso · 30-06-2021 2:24pm

Big crowds out there today. Great to see (obviously as long as their signs aren't too big).

Brian? · 30-06-2021 2:39pm

retalivity wrote: »

Bisseger's POC stormtrooper helmet is ridiculous

I like it.

retalivity · 30-06-2021 2:51pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Wonder how much time Lopez will lose today !

Shockingly only 23s back at the first time check, 3s behind Bjerg

Tim76 · 30-06-2021 2:55pm

Carlton talking about shaving the front of the leg and leaving hair on the back to reduce aerodynamic turbulence.

The leg mullet springs to mind - business in the front, party in the back.

retalivity · 30-06-2021 3:01pm

Kung is absolutely monstering this

dastardly00 · 30-06-2021 3:13pm

ROG has just started

neris · 30-06-2021 3:15pm

Carlton saying the one who caused the stage 1 crash had been arrested

Doc07 · 30-06-2021 3:16pm

Thomas has a 56 big ring, ouch

mr spuckler · 30-06-2021 3:19pm

neris wrote: »

Carlton saying the one who caused the stage 1 crash had been arrested

Subject to potential fine of €1,500 for unintentionally causing injury they said earlier.

dastardly00 · 30-06-2021 3:39pm

Roglic is putting in a good TT

mewso · 30-06-2021 3:40pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

Subject to potential fine of €1,500 for unintentionally causing injury they said earlier.

Doubled down on their stupidity by not sticking around to face the music. I would have some respect for them if they did.

Dr. Bre · 30-06-2021 3:45pm

They over exaggerated the time roglic would lose

dastardly00 · 30-06-2021 3:46pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

They over exaggerated the time roglic would lose

True. Unless Pog absolutely blows Kung's time out of the water.

retalivity · 30-06-2021 3:46pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

They over exaggerated the time roglic would lose

Wait to see what Pog does...they were saying they expected him to be 90s ahead of him? Cant see it being that much.
Roglic putting time into Thomas though

30-06-2021 3:47pm

I'd like to see Kung hold on for the stage here, just checking he's not had a tour stage win. One of those lads it feels like he's been around forever now but he's still only 27.

MangleBadger · 30-06-2021 3:47pm

I would be surprised if anybody beats Kung's time besides possibly WVA.
So Rog is probably safe from Pog taking too much time from him

retalivity · 30-06-2021 3:51pm

The little map graphic on the tour website indicates that Pog is flying, he's going to catch Mas ahead of him

EDIT: 10s up at the 1st checkpoint!

MangleBadger · 30-06-2021 3:53pm

MangleBadger wrote: »

I would be surprised if anybody beats Kung's time besides possibly WVA.
So Rog is probably safe from Pog taking too much time from him

I may have spoke too soon. 10 seconds up after the first time check.
50:50 he either smashes it or blows up.

retalivity · 30-06-2021 3:58pm

Carapaz well off the pace

Tim76 · 30-06-2021 4:06pm

Pogacar flying

Dr. Bre · 30-06-2021 4:11pm

Come on MVDP

Dcully · 30-06-2021 4:13pm

Wow just wow from Pog yet again.

happytramp · 30-06-2021 4:13pm

King's expression watching that said it all....

mr spuckler · 30-06-2021 4:13pm

Kung's reaction!

Roglic lost 44 seconds to Pogacar.

MangleBadger · 30-06-2021 4:14pm

I did not think Pog would be so strong on a flat TT. I will now stop making any of my thoughts known.

Mefistofelino · 30-06-2021 4:16pm

mr spuckler wrote: »

Kung's reaction!

Roglic lost 44 seconds to Pogacar.

TBH, I actually think Roglics's performance was very good for a man whose arse is held together with duct tape.

Daroxtar · 30-06-2021 4:16pm

MangleBadger wrote: »

I did not think Pog would be so strong on a flat TT. I will now stop making any of my thoughts known.

He was within seconds if WVA and Tom Dumoulin on the flat first section of last years TT and blew them away on the hill. The lad is a complete beast

Tim76 · 30-06-2021 4:17pm

Pog looking ominous now. He's well able to climb too! And has another TT to look forward to when they finish up in the mountains.

breezy1985 · 30-06-2021 4:19pm

He beat Kung by 19" pretty cruel on Kung he probably thought he had it after the Rog time

mewso · 30-06-2021 4:20pm

I would expect MvdP to fade now in the last couple of km so probably Pog in yellow.

Dcully · 30-06-2021 4:21pm

Only one that will come close to pog is rog, was before the tour started and hasn't changed.
Some ride from MVDP again too delighted for him.

MangleBadger · 30-06-2021 4:23pm

Fair play to MVDP for that effort.

30-06-2021 4:24pm

Pog willing MvdP on there I'd say so as not to get the jersey.

mewso · 30-06-2021 4:25pm

MangleBadger wrote: »

Fair play to MVDP for that effort.

Yes incredible. Does make me wonder what value there really is in being a TT specialist.

mr spuckler · 30-06-2021 4:28pm

MVDP more than justified the cost of the wheels :pac:

Morris Garren · 30-06-2021 4:30pm

Brilliant ride from MvdP - glad to see him keep the jersey.
Pogacar was 3rd in the Slovenian TT champs?

Some big engines in Slovenia these days...

Brian? · 30-06-2021 4:38pm

Morris Garren wrote: »

Brilliant ride from MvdP - glad to see him keep the jersey.
Pogacar was 3rd in the Slovenian TT champs?

Some big engines in Slovenia these days...

I'd say that was more a matter of peaking at the right time.

He's unstoppable now I think. Barring a crash. It's a pity he's ahead of the other GC guys now. I really loved him attacking last year to take back the time he'd lost in the cross winds bit by bit.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't have a train like Ineos to sit behind in the mountains. They'll try to grind him down, but i honestly think he's too good.

I just hope it's in some way close going into the Pyrenees.

breezy1985 · 30-06-2021 4:51pm

Brian? wrote: »

I'd say that was more a matter of peaking at the right time.

He's unstoppable now I think. Barring a crash. It's a pity he's ahead of the other GC guys now. I really loved him attacking last year to take back the time he'd lost in the cross winds bit by bit.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't have a train like Ineos to sit behind in the mountains. They'll try to grind him down, but i honestly think he's too good.

I just hope it's in some way close going into the Pyrenees.

Hopefully plenty of others attack him and don't sit in for a podium.

Great to see Ineos beat so comprehensively in a TT. Ineeded that after yesterday

Tour de France stage 5 (ITT): Changé to Laval Espace Mayenne (27.2km)

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