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irishbucsfan · 29-06-2021 02:03PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Philip Nolan, our supposed best statistician, is either grossly incompetent with that latest model, or flat out lying to the population. Honestly, how can they expect anyone to swallow that rubbish about 700k cases in a few months and over 2k deaths? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t quite literally destroying lives

Because there are multiple models ranging from 21,000 cases to nearly 700k?

It clearly says that’s a pessimistic number, possibly assuming some sort of vaccine escape which is entirely possible unfortunately.

Wed be very lucky to hit the 21k number and extremely unlucky to hit the 700k number.

The central models do seem pessimistic but we haven’t seen a huge increase in cases yet from the variants and it’s be reasonable to predict that we could soon if we opened up in the same way as countries who have see recent increases. Portugal being a good example of a country who opened up before us and are now having to implement local restrictions again.

sydthebeat · 29-06-2021 02:15PM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/two-weekindoor-dining-delay-wont-make-a-substantial-difference-todelta-spread-saysinfectious-disease-expert-40585689.html

“We’re not going to be able to stay locked down forever, at some point we do need to test the waters. At some point we do need to see what works and what doesn’t work,” Prof Mallon said.

sorry Professor, a decision like that takes bravery.

The anti antigen policy from NPHET is looking more and more political with this decision today

awec · 29-06-2021 02:17PM

I don't believe that the vaccinated people being allowed thing will actually happen.

Feel sorry for those who keep getting shafted on this.

irishbucsfan · 29-06-2021 02:18PM

awec wrote: »

I don't believe that the vaccinated people being allowed thing will actually happen.

Feel sorry for those who keep getting shafted on this.

Only would have been possible if they’d started working towards that months ago.

By the time that’s possible it won’t be necessary I’d say

sydthebeat · 29-06-2021 02:22PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Only would have been possible if they’d started working towards that months ago.

By the time that’s possible it won’t be necessary I’d say

They could literally purchase a covid app licence off the shelf tomorrow if they wanted to.

my brother in law has been using this in Qatar for months already

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moi.covid19&hl=en_IE&gl=US

29-06-2021 02:26PM

I was initially surprised with the plan to open up to be honest, given the case numbers were stagnating at ~400. The hope was that the vaccine could counter-act opening up but it was always a risky balancing act. Not surprised at all at this news. Other countries are going through all sorts of issues too so I don't know what people are talking about saying we're over reacting or in a better/worse position. UK was supposed to open up further a few weeks back and pushed it back for example; they are much further ahead than us with vaccinating.

awec · 29-06-2021 02:26PM

You can't expect hospitality to police this, it's a total non runner IMO. They're just saying it to try and placate people somewhat, but it'll never happen.

FACECUTTR · 29-06-2021 02:47PM

awec wrote: »

I don't believe that the vaccinated people being allowed thing will actually happen.

Feel sorry for those who keep getting shafted on this.

It is just smoke and mirrors to get the 20s group vaccinated. Numbers of people in the 30-40 group refusing any vaccine getting larger each week. They needed an incentive to increase the uptake and hence the story that's being spouted.

29-06-2021 02:57PM

FACECUTTR wrote: »

It is just smoke and mirrors to get the 20s group vaccinated. Numbers of people in the 30-40 group refusing any vaccine getting larger each week. They needed an incentive to increase the uptake and hence the story that's being spouted.

I reckon this is nonsense and stuff like this is the reason I asked for a ban from the covid forum :pac:

FACECUTTR · 29-06-2021 03:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I reckon this is nonsense and stuff like this is the reason I asked for a ban from the covid forum :pac:

Just delete your account

irishbucsfan · 29-06-2021 03:14PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

They could literally purchase a covid app licence off the shelf tomorrow if they wanted to.

my brother in law has been using this in Qatar for months already

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moi.covid19&hl=en_IE&gl=US

It has to be backed by law though. Denmark are a good example I wish we’d followed mind you.

But its an extra month or two of reduced hospitality, not no hospitality. Outdoor hospitality during the two best months of the year. It’s not the end of the world. And by the end of August ourselves and the EU and most of the developed world will have achieved something fairly incredible in terms of the ridiculously huge undertaking that is the vaccination rollout. It’s hard and I think people lose context due to that, but it’s going in the right direction.

aloooof · 29-06-2021 03:25PM

The added carrot this time round too is that once things open, they will (in all likelihood) remain open.

prawnsambo · 29-06-2021 03:26PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It has to be backed by law though. Denmark are a good example I wish we’d followed mind you.

But its an extra month or two of reduced hospitality, not no hospitality. Outdoor hospitality during the two best months of the year. It’s not the end of the world. And by the end of August ourselves and the EU and most of the developed world will have achieved something fairly incredible in terms of the ridiculously huge undertaking that is the vaccination rollout. It’s hard and I think people lose context due to that, but it’s going in the right direction.

We're almost blasé about this now, but it's quite extraordinary. At the start, I looked into how long it normally takes and was just thinking we'd be lucky to have a vaccine program before 2023.

molloyjh · 29-06-2021 04:37PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

It has to be backed by law though. Denmark are a good example I wish we’d followed mind you.

But its an extra month or two of reduced hospitality, not no hospitality. Outdoor hospitality during the two best months of the year. It’s not the end of the world. And by the end of August ourselves and the EU and most of the developed world will have achieved something fairly incredible in terms of the ridiculously huge undertaking that is the vaccination rollout. It’s hard and I think people lose context due to that, but it’s going in the right direction.

Yeah, we were at 31% fully vaccinated 2 weeks ago, with 61% having had their first jab. We seem to be averaging about 50-60k or so jabs a day at the moment too. So that's around 600-700k jabs since the last official update. Almost everyone who is being vaccinated for the first time at the moment will need a second jab within 4 weeks then that means that almost everyone of the 61% above should be fully vaccinated in the next 2 weeks. And almost everyone who got their shot in the last 2 weeks should be fully vaccinated in the next 3-4 weeks. By the end of July we should be in or around 70% fully vaccinated. That's pretty amazing when you think about it.

Ireland are far from the only country being conservative about this. Sydney has locked down for 2 weeks because of just over 100 cases being detected over a couple of weeks. What we're seeing in Delta is just how rapidly its spreading through unvaccinated populations. Who are those most likely to be in restaurants and pubs? Those in their 20s and 30s who are not yet vaccinated. It would be the perfect environment for Delta.

Neil3030 · 29-06-2021 06:44PM

Well that's me avoiding all forms of English-speaking media for the next few decades anyway...

Podge_irl · 29-06-2021 06:46PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

Well that's me avoiding all forms of English-speaking media for the next few decades anyway...

Ironically, this has to be one of the most likeable English teams in a very long time and I have a lot of time for Southgate.

But any chance of warming to English football went the way of the dodo during the anthems.

awec · 29-06-2021 06:46PM

Muller

Teferi · 29-06-2021 06:46PM

It's coming home.

Neil3030 · 29-06-2021 06:49PM

I'm taking no chances. English part of brain: off.

Conas atá gach duine?

Come stai tutti?

b.gud · 29-06-2021 06:55PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

Well that's me avoiding all forms of English-speaking media for the next few decades anyway...

Do I want to know why?

Teferi · 29-06-2021 06:59PM

Likeable team, likeable coach - I'll be cheering for them for the rest of the tournament.

Neil3030 · 29-06-2021 07:03PM

Teferi wrote: »

Likeable team, likeable coach - I'll be cheering for them for the rest of the tournament.

Non ho capito

swiwi_ · 29-06-2021 07:20PM

I still rate Italy to win. Germany are fairly muck at the moment. It’s a monkey off the back for England. In theory they have a dream draw to the final: 2 of Sweden, Ukraine, Czech Republic and Denmark. If they can’t make a final with those teams then it’s their own fault.

Shaka Hislop · 29-06-2021 08:01PM

England did very well today.... Sterling is getting some stick in the press about him being a makeweight in any Man City deal for Kane ....tbh ..Kane is muck this championship and should be on the bench for a game or so, see if he can rediscover his mojo.
The youngsters could be the winning of this tournament of Southgate let's them loose.... Mount, Rashford, Bellingham, Sancho & Foden....a cracking bunch of players who could carry England all the way

stephen_n · 29-06-2021 08:07PM

awec wrote: »

I watched the walking dead until the season where they were at the prison and then I just gave up. It seemed to go on forever.

It’s gone 11 seasons with enough content for 5. The pacing after about the third season is brutal, totally drawn out.

stephen_n · 29-06-2021 08:26PM

FACECUTTR wrote: »

It is just smoke and mirrors to get the 20s group vaccinated. Numbers of people in the 30-40 group refusing any vaccine getting larger each week. They needed an incentive to increase the uptake and hence the story that's being spouted.

Any factual information to back this up?

Shaka Hislop · 29-06-2021 08:34PM

stephen_n wrote: »

Any factual information to back this up?

He's not wrong unfortunately, I know quite a lot of people who are not getting vaccinated and have no intention of doing so

Dave_The_Sheep · 29-06-2021 08:37PM

I don't know a single person who doesn't intend to.

Richie_Rich89 · 29-06-2021 08:41PM

I don't think I'll bother with the vaccine.

stephen_n · 29-06-2021 08:44PM

Shaka Hislop wrote: »

He's not wrong unfortunately, I know quite a lot of people who are not getting vaccinated and have no intention of doing so

Well that’s not factual, that’s anecdotal. I barely know anyone who is not taking it. The only data I have seen so far suggests we have one of the highest uptakes in Europe. With up to 90% of the eligible cohorts down to 50 years old taking the vaccine. I kept hearing stories that the over 60’s weren’t taking it, yet 90% of them did. So with this, I’ll believe it when I see the data to back it up.

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